1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Hassan Whiteside?!

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by The Rock MVP, May 19, 2010.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,570
    Fear, jealously, etc. certainly play a role, but when BOTH the Raptors AND the Cavs made a S&T deal with Miami when both these front offices are no doubt quite unhappy with Miami and their lost franchise player would seem to suggest that front office types tend to largely get over these emotions when there is a modestly decent amount of incentives to do so (for e.g., two late first round picks over the next few years).


    By the way, regarding the 25th pick-- I am thinking the Rockets might have been specifically after a early 2nd rounder rather than a late first because they are targeting an European guy who is getting a decent-sized salary in Europe. Being picked early 2nd avoids the "Splitter Problem" regarding being constrained to paying rookie scale for 3 years. But that's just my guess.


    I also am not sure why Memphis would fear/hate/be jealous of Morey/Rockets more than they would Cuban/Mavs. The Mavs have been just as good as (if not better than) the Rockets, both front offices are heavily stats oriented, both are within the division, and the Mavs also spent more money than the Rockets have historically spent. Not sure why Houston would scare them or be disliked by them. In fact, Morey and Memphis GM Chris Wallace seem to be friendly with each other since both worked for the Celtics at the same time.

    In fact, Memphis has been quite willing to deal with Houston. Remember that Kyle Lowry guy? Is there anything happening since then to scare Memphis?
     
  2. leebigez

    leebigez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,492
    Likes Received:
    589
    Teams track other teams tendecies also, including the gm. I think teams know that morey wants 2nd rd picks vs low first considering the guarantees associated with the first rd pick. Houston had a chance last year to buy detroits mid first round pick, but didn't. I guess they didn't see any difference between what they got in the 2nd and pick 15, and thats cool. This past draft, they could have bought the same pick dallas did, but didn't. Like i said earlier, the price of 2nd rd picks went up because of the cap clearing teams were doing. 1st rd picks were going cheaper than 2nd rd picks because of this. With this in mind, ok city manipulated the desire of teams to give up those picks and such. I still maintain it would have been a small gamble to buy that late pick and take whiteside. Maybe he turns out to be a bum or he might turn out to be a very good defender in the mold of theo ratliff, i don't know, but i guess we will see soon enough.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,137
    Likes Received:
    33,022
    I really wish the Rockets would have bought a 2nd round pick and taken Whiteside.

    DD
     
  4. kidcave9

    kidcave9 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    3,062
    Likes Received:
    184
    we all do.

    He has a lot of upside for an early 2nd round pick
     
  5. ebatinga

    ebatinga Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    5
    Hasaan Whiteside = Hasheem Thabeet! Guys who are tall and have the ability to change/block shots defensively, but nothing more...
     
  6. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,503
    Likes Received:
    14,762
    Why would it be stupid? DM already said "cash is not a problem". Buying picks even at an overpriced rate is ok if you don't mind blowing 3M, it has no salary cap implication so overpaying for picks has no downside. If paying more cash means you don't lose a pick, why isn't that worth it? The Rockets already shelled out 3M to get the services of Andersen on top of paying his salary. I don't see why DM wouldn't pounce on a 2nd round pick for cash even if its 3M. Nobody wanted sell to DM for cash straight up.


    Looks like I messed up in this, Thunder made so many trades I got mixed up. However they also paid cash straight up to the Hawks to get the first pick of the 2nd round (i.e. Tibor Pleis).

    Look what I'm just trying to point out is that the Thunder and the Mavs got picks for cash straight up. Yet why are we unable to do the very same thing?
    There must be a logical reason for it, and the only thing I can come up with is that DM got the "trading pick to this guy for cash is a bad idea" tag. Everyone made a fuss when the Rockets broke even in the west with a roster composed of late draft picks. You think other gms won't notice that?

    Walsh looks like a moron for falling for tmac, Chris Wallace looked like a fool for trading Kyle Lowry, and Dumars got exposed when he traded C-bud, who was arguably a top 10 rookie last year. I'd expect these guys would be hesitant to sell their picks again, given the chance. When the gm looks bad in a deal that usually means the franchise got ripped off, so I assume most GMs would say not dealing with DM is the best thing for their franchise as well. I mean, if I was selling a pick would I sell it to Presti who may or may not be a good drafter? Or would I sell it to DM whom I know has a high probability of getting a steal?
     
  7. EffTheJazz!!!

    EffTheJazz!!! Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2010
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    139
    Who? Hasheem Thabeet!?
     
  8. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    10,888
    Likes Received:
    11,832
    I would love either of those guys in our team behind Yao.
     
  9. daeyeth

    daeyeth Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,140
    Likes Received:
    28
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,832
    Likes Received:
    18,550
  11. anchel

    anchel Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    Well, nobody expected too much from him becoming a 2nd rounder, so I wouldn't call him bust.
     
  12. SupermoochieFro

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    421
    Likes Received:
    7
    I'd take a flier on the guy!
     
  13. acsorelle4

    acsorelle4 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    373
    We need a time machine so we can go back and draft him at 14. How did we let him slip?! Wait, who?
     
  14. rolyat93

    rolyat93 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Messages:
    6,354
    Likes Received:
    460
    Haaahahahaa:grin:
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. Sydeffect

    Sydeffect Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    5,919
    Likes Received:
    442
    Don't ever try to become an NBA scout
     
  16. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,832
    Likes Received:
    18,550
    Holy ****.
     
  17. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    10,888
    Likes Received:
    11,832
    This thread are always funny in hindsight. It shows me I should never try to evaluate college talent because I don't watch a second of it even during March Madness.
     
  18. BigBenito

    BigBenito Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    7,355
    Likes Received:
    175
    Draft night Whiteside was on espn answering questions (for about 5 minutes). I got in a question about Hakeem that he answered. So, I'm still on his bandwagon.

    Don't desert it now, boys! :)
     
  19. jocar

    jocar Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2007
    Messages:
    4,869
    Likes Received:
    614
    More revived failed predictions please! Pure enjoyment for offseason
     
  20. The Rock MVP

    The Rock MVP Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2007
    Messages:
    1,078
    Likes Received:
    20

    Actually, I started this thread and I questioned the hope from the beginning. Thanks for the effort though.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now