That's a good question …. and one we might not know the answer to until the free agent signing period this offseason but certainly more than the veterans minimum. As for who to compare him to …. he's a starting quality wing , a quality 3D role player that can defend , rebound , shoot , pass and drive. Basically he'd your Ariza replacement , tho not the same type of defender. He shoots the same % from 3 as Covington and .063points better than Bazemore and .80 better than Ariza …. Those guys cost $18m , $15m and $10m …. I'd call 3 years and 12m total a bargain price for House and could see him getting full T-MLE money in the offseason. How many of those players are shooting .458 from the floor , .390 from 3 and .880 from the stripe in 24mpg ? For the month of January he's shooting .469 from 3 and playing 30+ minutes per game. Luxury Tax Costs.
Joe was paid minimum. We used the MLE on PJ and Zhou last year. Are you talking about Ariza, maybe for this year? The MLE can still be spent on House, or we convert him. Morey isn't going to go much past March 1st without spending the MLE on House or someone else, or converting House. Every scenario is Tilman paying House.
@heypartner I have only seen reports of the rockets offering him 3 - year league min guaranteed deal . If the issue for House is reaching FA sooner... Why have the rockets not offered him a 2 year deal ... or a 2 year with a P.O for 3 ? The 2 year deal HAS to be enough upside for us . Offering him minimum (even guaranteed) takes nothing out of MLE right ?
One flaw to your plan here … convert him and he's basically UFA , sign him for the remainder and he's RFA , you have the right to match tho we'd be limited to use of the T-MLE in matching …. They are better off using this years T-MLE on him and having next years free ….
Wow, the same thing happened last year with the clippers and tyrone wallace. Here is the article link with the details. https://clutchpoints.com/clippers-news-tyrone-wallace-turned-las-4-year-contract-offer/
It seems that the rockets offered a better contract to House than the clippers offered Wallace. Wallace went into restricted free agency and the Clippers matched New Orleans offer for Wallace. Of course this free agency market should be better than last year's and House is a better player than Wallace...
I'm starting the 2-year deal movement . May it be more successful than the Otto porter movement . 2 years gives us a year of upside and it lets hour reach FA sooner . We can throw in a P.O for year 3 as extra security for House . House is looking at min next year vs what he can get on the open market ... BUT he already knows he's in a good situation with the rockets . If he plays well next year then what he can make as a FA in that scenario will be more than what he can hope to make this summer because he will have an extra year on his track record . Plus you know Chris and James are gonna hook him up on the side . He's not gonna have more generous teammates anywhere else ( among teams that can pay him ) . How many teams have 2 guys making 40 mil anyways !? Hahaha
Makes perfect sense …. cause every dollar of House contract costs you two. TilFart is Cheap. I miss Les.
None of that matters - it is the chain effect. Every dollar you sign House for is multiplied by 2 and added to the huge burden of CP3's contract. That burden is easier to bear when you take away $35 million over 4 years that CP3 shouldn't feel entitled to ask for. He's not a top tier LeBron, Duncan, Harden player. He's not a guy entering his prime who hasn't been paid. He's an injury prone veteran who already made $200 million while not winning anything, never went anywhere in the playoffs without Harden, and will have $350 million not including sponsorships when his career is up regardless. But he pinched every penny out of a poor owner like Tillman, and it affects the players at the other end of spectrum like House. It adds up for an owner that isn't super rich compared to sports team owners. Don't blame House, blame Paul and Morey for not being able to negotiate.
Just give House the MLE money. he's earned it. As a 2 year player, what is the minimum for House? Like 850k? No wonder he declined. Of course, someone will offer him at least the BAE or something this offseason with the way he has been playing. Offer the man 3/6 at least. If buyout FA's want to sign with the Warriors over the Rockets then **** em, we don't have to offer them more money, with all of the holes our roster have we can offer minutes. House has played like a legitimately solid starter for us and has been improving every week. These are his numbers over his last 15 games 10 points, 4 rebounds in 27.6 minutes on .475/.446/.871 with 1.9 made 3's per game. He's athletic, he's only 25, he's hitting the 3 at a super high % and clip, he's got the size/agility to guard 2-4 seamlessly while holding his own on D. This is the starting forward we have been looking for, just pay the man.
2nd year player min is just over $1.5m. I agree , pay the man … what's left of the T-MLE isn't cap crippling now or later …. Not doing so limits flexibility next offseason.
There's no difference. Converting leaves him with 3 yrs or less tenure, this summer. He's still RFA, in either scenario. I'm not in favor of him becoming a free agent this summer.
Maybe you should look at what happens in a negotiation, obv you don't say the terms you want outright you go lower or higher. If Morey starts with 3 year guaranteed at Mid first round money then his agent will say I want lotto money lets meet in the middle. Clearly you don't know how any of this works cuz you just pulled everything out of your ass. You don't even consider how Green or Rivers feel if Morey bends over backwards without a fight to House's agent, those two guys took the vet min no questionds asked no drama. So you telling me sucking up to Harden means instant payday? Thats a great way to run a team. What minimum deal are you talking about? The Rox final offer is a guaranteed 3 year deal that offers more money than late first round pick which is more than what Danuel's peers get. It's a very fair offer and its up to Danuel to weigh the pros and cons vs betting on himself. Personally I take that deal since Rox plucked him from obscurity but that is up to him and his agent. Are you seriously thinking House is the key to beating the Warriors???? SMH! The reality is everything you can think of in the 5 mins you thought before making your posts Morey and his team already thought off way before because guess what, thats their freaking job. Ranting based on incomplete information when you aren't even an insider and don't know the real score just makes you look look like an ignoramus.
Turned out so well for DMo... lol. Morey was right then and right with Capela (who signed here for massivre unders), and may well end up signing House. This thing isn't finished yet.
