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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ThatBoyNick, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. bigtexxx

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    Lowest weekly deaths in the US since March....today was the lowest Friday deaths in the US since March.

    Where are the deaths? Even Texas, Florida and California, where cases are skyrocketing, deaths are remarkably stable over a period of a few months. Reported cases and deaths haven't shown the expected 2-3 week lag correlation for months.

    I'm still of the belief that a huge percentage of the country has been infected with this, and this recent case spike is due to more testing. For those of you who say "oh but the positivity rate is increasing!", I would respond that a new demographic is now being tested - young people - who weren't tested before. Therefore positivity rate isn't a good metric to use, since the sample set has shifted.
     
  2. deb4rockets

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    What concerns me is hospitalizations have increased 400% in Houston since April. That's nothing to take lightly.
     
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    I'll bite:

    Ignoring the suspicious looking data on pneumonia this year...

    Ignoring the long term effects and the unreported deaths for people who can't afford to go to the hospital...

    Ignoring the eventual consequence of our hospitals being full and thus leaving many people unaccounted for and whether that will lead to even more deaths...

    In 2019, the average death per day by all causes was 7,970

    If we use today as an example of the number of deaths in the US of 616. That's 7.7% of all causes of total deaths per day on average.

    If we use the average number of deaths for the past 30 days: 691 / 7970 = 8.7% of all causes of total deaths per day in the US.

    If a 7.7% - 8.7% average daily death count isn't concerning for you.... and people having jobs is more important... then I don't know what to tell you. Your morals are whack.
     
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    Don't matter, Tex don't care about hospitalization rates, only death rates. If it doesn't fit his story, it's irrelevant.
     
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  5. Outlier

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    This is bigtexxx:

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    well damn, that’s a really inconvenient stat to bring up.
     
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  7. Outlier

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    It wouldn't surprise me if in bigtexxx's twisted mind that all the people who have died due to coronovirus are labeled as "heroes" who had to die for a worthy cause (for people to make money, baby!)
     
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    Is there still capacity in the area? Are they turning away patients? If not, then your stat is not very insightful.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    If a large number of cases are asymptomatic, our vulnerable population is being protected, and deaths are declining rapidly, then how big of a deal is this?

    Much of this hysteria is clearly politically driven. It wasn't even mentioned in the news during the week of the George Floyd protests, which proves my point.
     
  11. Outlier

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    Big "how big of a deal is the cause for 8% of average deaths per day??" Texxx
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    The next trump campaign rally hot spot...

     
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    “New” cases? Or just now discovering the cases? Big difference.
     
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    Funny... When faced with counter facts about his primary point about deaths, bigtexxx just ignores it and goes on to address other subjects spewing the same bullshit. Coward.
     
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    your data lacks context. Therefore it is not convincing. 8%? Ok, so? Context matters.
     
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    Good question... but the problem now, like before... not enough focus on testing and test kits. And while this may clear kids going into day one, the kids can also get contact after the first day.

     
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    Doctors have become better at attack COVID-19 in patients, that is one reason for less deaths. However, ICUs are maxed out....that's. a problem if people can't be treated.
     
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    Do you know the pain, fear, suffering and isolation these poor people go through? Do you know the strain it could put on their families? Do you know that many have long recoveries and more health problems after the virus? Do you really even care? Maybe, maybe not. I wonder if you would feel differently if it was your child, wife, mother, father, sister or brother in a hospital. Maybe, maybe not.

    Your lack of empathy astounds me, but then again, Trump has that same attitude.
     
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    the pain and suffering of an asymptomatic person? Very little!
     

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