Harden on Giannis: “I wish I could just run and just dunk. That takes no skill at all.”

Getting to the bottom of it? Where does getting to the bottom of it show he is overrated? The Bucks record? His scoring efficiency? His defense?

 

I agree, we’d all be better off if we cared less about whether other people like our players. What you are missing, of course, is that resentment leads directly to increased misinformation as well. And if that’s something you don’t care about either, I’d be very surprised since you spend more time than anyone here correcting misinformation (and, generally, do a very good job of it).

 

Fair enough. Footwork is something that is very important. We all know that having watched Dream.

To say that Harden and Giannis are on the same plane in terms of skill is like saying they're on the same plane in terms of height.

 

I think one of the these will win it all..... it will tell us a tremendous amount more.

Kawhi/PG - AD/Lebron - Freak/Middleton/Budenholzer - Harden/Westbrook

Boston, Denver and Toronto will put up a good fight.

 

It is interesting/funny that you choose to include Budenholzer as one of the stars of the Bucks.

 

I never implied that they are on the same skill level.

 

Budenholzer stands for all role players plus coaching in short, which I think they have the luxury version of on their bench.

 

It seems to me that harden has marginalized the impact of Capeala to the last few years when in reality harden is not better than capeala.

They both equally suck and both are losers.

Harden's mistakes are equally as bad as the inexperience of Capeala since the team failed as a unit.

Damian Lillard or Bradley Beal could have easily replaced harden on all star selection in my opinion.

 

Keep making a fool out of yourself

 

again, he is racking up gawdy stats playing in the leastern conference. he is able to sit out 4th quarters and take it easy every other game, and then go hard the fewer instances a tough opponent shows up on the schedule. he's also got a tremendous supporting cast that's won 5 out of the 6 games he's missed. when the playoffs roll around is he going to disappear and lose 4 straight games again? people want to excuse him for that because of his youth. ok fine, give him a few more chances in the years going forward before condemning him. but then don't say 'he's the very best today and that's a fact'.

and your comment about rocket fans being bitterly jealous is laughable. every rocket fan knows that if harden was permitted to barrel thru, elbow, and dislodge defenders seemingly every possession he'd average 45/game. on the contrary, zebras jump up animated AF every opportunity they get to call phantom offensive fouls on harden, even when defenders obviously flop. so in a rigged league covered by a bought & paid for media, for you to say giannis is undoubtedly the best player completely obliterates any semblance of the impartiality you've sought to project here over the years.

 

Report him

 

It’s laughable that you’d deny it. It happened with Westbrook (who Rockets fans now love, when he’s no longer competing against Harden for MVP glory). It happened with Curry. And now it’s happening with Giannis.

I said he’s “probably” the best player, and the statistical evidence for that view this season is quite strong.

 

you said "fact is he's probably the best player", and that is why you have no credibility in this thread. regarding westbrook's mvp and one of curry's, the voting criteria was conveniently changed each year to be able to choose each of them over harden. and despite westbrook being a great player, obviously he is not on harden's level, which was the point of outrage.

 

The rebounding of capeala and the playmaking of capeala sustained the rockets in the past whenever Harden went cold. Not sure, there will be enough plays made in any first round playoff matchup for 2020.

Can't call it, but the team seems to be running out of available plays with perspective matchups in the playoffs. Sure, the ball bounced our way a little bit against Celtics but seven game series are way more difficult.

will covington outperform Gobert from utah?
Will covington slow down lebron or kawhi? Jokic?

It was a tall order to make trades this late with the expectations of a championship.

It seems the offense is more of a crap shoot than a for sure thing!

The only good fourth quarter play in that celtics game was alley oop to House, and that alley oop only came after House made the steal.
The westbrook putback was nice in fourth quarter of celtics!

 

Yep, I think he probably is. And it is a fact that most of the all-in-one impact stats puts Giannis at the top, and the most respected NBA writers think he’s the top player, and the GM survey last summer had most GMs naming him as the player they’d want to build their team around and the most likely to be MVP this year.

But maybe your understanding of “probably the best player” differs from mine.

 

I don’t care what basketball writers say or what their opinions are. Their motivations and biases are obvious.

Of course GM’s would rather build around Giannis, he is nearly 5 years younger.

Harden and Giannis are clearly the best two players in the world and I could make compelling arguments for both.

Also defensive advanced statistics for individuals do not in general mean much because they are extremely team dependent. We saw that with Steph Curry.

 

SPOT ON.. its so simple yet nobody seems to understand this and they always say yes but hes got a great record vs western teams showing they dont really understand

 

lol at impact stats... giannis is playing knicks, cavaliers, hornets, bulls, hawks, twice a week.. . they are not playing in the same league...half of the Leastern Conference are teams tanking hard

 

Good one! You are killing it man, keep it up!

 

It’s just two great players doing the trash talk. No need to get so serious and over analyze.