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Fascist tries to kill civilians for political beliefs/Most media ignores it

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dachuda86, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. Jayzers_100

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    I’m talking about the rhetoric Trump uses. You’re a trump supporter but you don’t watch his rallies or the clips? You know what I’m talking about. You read his tweets right? Where he demonizes any opposition. He’s a child. You know this. This is the political environment we live in; partially from increased partisanship and partially from the Trumpian rhetoric. Trump does nothing but stoke tribalism
     
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    Bro you describe all poloticians... they all demonize.

    basket of deplorables ring a bell?
     
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    How many thousands more of his tweets do you want me to share? What I’m sick of is people playing coy and acting like all politicians are the same. No they’re not. I’ll definitely say they’re not. I’ll vote for any democrat or republican in a heartbeat if they display leadership and sensibility. Trump is an abhorration. Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” comment is one comment. It was inappropriate. Oh...did you think I was going to disagree? Hell no. I’m talking about a pattern, not just a pattern, but an exhaustive record of torment EVERY SINGLE DAY by the sitting president of the United States.

    there’s a legal doctrine called “unclean hands” which can either limit or eliminate the damages alleged by one party if they themselves are acting wrongfully as well. You can’t expect me to give you credit if you’re trying to vilify leftist behavior without taking responsibility for what trump has plainly done. If they need to go, so does he. Own up to it.
     
  4. AleksandarN

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    And btw I don’t need to insult you @dachuda86 you do a better job of that yourself.
    I called him a terrorist. Try harder
     
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    Calling him a terrorist is defending him. The only the only thing that isn't defending him is to incorrectly label him a fascist.
     
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    The correlation between Trump's rhetoric and spike in right-wing violence has been demonstrated here many times before. Other than that it doesn't take a genius to realize when the leader of a country makes statements condoning and even encouraging violence his rabid followers will oblige.
     
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    The sure sign you are beating him in a debate is when he resorts to personal attacks. So it's clear he is losing badly in this thread and it's eating him up. He projects a lot for sure.
     
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    Just like the Nazis did
     
  10. dachuda86

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    Trump didn't do anything outside of normal politics other than being more of an *******. He isn't calling for violence. Also I don't support Trump. He has a lot of bad policies I don't agree with. That said, I am not against voting for him if the left props up communists like Sanders who call for revolutions. I am like a lot of Americans who don't like where the DNC is going and is OK with an ******* if the economy is putting money in our pockets. I can't honestly have faith in people who call for insanely expensive programs with no way of paying other than taking from me. I can't say the DNC represents my interests. That said I am not motivated to even vote. I likely won't cast a ballot because again I am not on the Trump train, I could care less about him, but he is always an option to further punish the dems who left voters like me behind. But again I am not against ruling out voting Dem either. We will see who they pick but it is unlikely they will be moderate enough to get my vote. Much of my critiques have in fact been leveled at the dems because I want to be able to vote for them again. I miss having a good option but they just don't want to moderate.
     
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    Grow up.
     
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    Your troll efforts are getting more obvious.
     
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    So if that is true, then what about violent communist speech?
     
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    I like you to look at something

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    When people disrupt trump rallies he openly states “throw them out in the cold”.



    Never in a million years would any respectable leader treat protest the way he does. He constantly belittles Democrats and calls them, the press, his own ex-staffers, patriots, etc the “enemy”. It is complete and utter dishonesty to claim that he doesn’t embolden extremists.

    I don’t disagree about wanting a moderate. I want the same thing. I’m very fearful about having Sanders as a nominee because it means Trump is slightly less likely to lose. But he has to go. I don’t want “socialism” either, but at least Sanders is a civilized person. And you know what? Any “extreme socialist” idea he may have will ultimately fail in congress. Trump’s economy is nothing any other president can’t implement; he doesn’t have some omnipotent power over it. The paramount issue is having a respectable leader of the United States. Trump is a clown, carnival barking loser who attempts to shred the rule of law at every opportunity. You couldn’t dream up a bigger mixture of ineptitude and buffoonery than what you have in the White House right now.

    In short, I respectfully disagree when it comes to considering trump as a viable option. He has not once demonstrated that he is qualified.
     
  16. dachuda86

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    Go ahead and disagree... we each get to exercise a vote... or stay home. I usually don't vote because I don't "support" these assholes anyway. I get why you think that though. I don't disagree that Trump is lacking civility. But personally I didn't see much benefit when things were, so I am not entirely going to dog someone for doing things in an unconventional way. Be an *******... especially abroad. I don't think our "allies" have held up their end and we do need to have a backbone on the world stage. Didn't have that under most past admins.
     
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    High school... you're a high school kid... got it.
     
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    More then throw them out in the cold



    Hey guys, you can't have socialism or communism without a state or community controlling means of production. Bernie has said multiple times in plain English, he is not proposing controlled means of production, therefore, he is unmistakably not proposing socialism or communism.

    The type of philosophy that Bernie speaks of is mostly identical to the term social democracy, which is a democracy based ideology for a mixed economy containing robust unionization / collective bargaining, that places great emphasis on strategic regulations and taxes to fund extensive social and welfare programs.

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    Please, consider voting. Perhaps, consider picking the lesser *******. An open ******* in a position of leadership means that we as a society will eventually deteriorate into a society where power is paramount and law is for show (which is a recipe for economic and humanitarian decline). Also, there is no proof that being an ******* to other countries will make us better off long term, but it might take us down the path toward WW3 (pretty much an apocalypse). Openly sh*tting on NATO and inflaming middle east (Iran and Israel) while boosting our already immense defense budget seems like the best way to conduct foreign affairs to you? All the while adding to our enormous deficit?

    Generally, if a person appears to be morally sound, you can delegate certain decisions to them that you don't particular feel knowledgeable or care enough to understand and not be taken advantage of (too much). Who among us is truly aware of economic/social policy intricacies? Whereas a proven liar and an exaggerator will definitely take advantage of you at each step of the way if it serves their interests.

    Some folks are fine with being taken advantage of as long as other people around them that they don't like are being abused more than them. That's just dumb though. As you and others have pointed out extremist violence is spiking thanks to Trump's divisive behavior. On dating site these days, you'll see half the population openly stating that opposite political views are not wanted/tolerated - as if love is not possible because of your partner's view on foreign affairs. Same happens within families. People are more angry at each other. Living amidst such emotions is not a good living and affects each of us negatively in the end. Nazism took this as far as WW2/holocaust. We had a civil war over it. Maybe four years of moving slightly closer to canadian/european like social democracy is not such a bad thing in comparison. Unless you are racist that is...
     
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    where?
     

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