Was just thinking just this. @BimaThug is this still even possible/likely? I’m not sure if we have the room or ability to do this again but if we gave shump the exact same deal we could trade for almost anyone with mostly expiring salary
Dork Elvis is just amazing man... Personnel in and out, and he constantly stays ahead of the curve. Astonishing.
And there are people that want him gone. SMH!!!! I think that is more a reflection of our educational system than on Morey.
That’s dangerous. The longer the league waits, the more likely this will end up in court, and they’ll lose....like when Stern voided a rash of contracts abusing the 1st Yr Option clause in the early ‘90s...Stern lost all those cases... If they void, one would expect the Union to be really pissed keeping a free agent in limbo...so, could mean they are investigating why Nene opted out of $3.8m player option...was there some quid pro quo? .so, based upon learning experience of 90s, could this mean league is making a stronger case?
Combine this with the following tweet. ... this could be a sign that Morey had Shump lined up but was forced to renege
Appreciate you popping in here @ch44 to keep us up to date. NBA just needs to sit in it here. Morey found more loopholes and the NBA just has to let this go. They want to close things up in the next CBA, fine.
I'm sure they are considering a rash of abuse throughout the league using this "loophole." The next CBA isn't until 2021. 75% salary attached to 52 wins is artificial salary, and constitutes abuse, imo. Every contender will start signing these next year. It's really cool Morey was first to do this. I'm OK whatever they do, but if they void it, I'm prepared to just "let it go," too.
Look at it this way: The buyout market might dry up if every contender has a Human TPE. Agents would say, screw taking a buyout, let's make them trade us for a Human TPE. Agents can abuse rules just as well as Morey can. Since the reason Nene's contract worked is because we still had his Bird Rights, Morey probably does have the advantage this year, but next year, not so much. (You can't attach Incentive Bonuses to minimum contracts, and the base salary + bonus can't exceed signing exceptions that you are using.)
So actually if Nene is signed, we'd see other teams doing the same @heypartner thus rendering the advantage to zero?
Correct. This is a low-barrier arbitrage; the market will self-correct and take away the fun of it. The best scenario would be that the league office says, ok we messed up this one. I let you have it, but we are going to change things to patch up this loophole.
Morey probably has a major advantage this year. It probably would take to next year for other contenders to sign one of these contracts. Reason is that the base salary + incentive bonuses must fit under the cap or within the max of the signing exception being used. Morey signed Nene using Bird Rights, and looks like he waited until all contenders couldn't follow suit -- *this year* -- because they no longer have Bird Rights players left. Maybe someone does ... I don't know.
This. They can address the issue in the off season or they can in 2021. Those are the rules that everyone agreed to and someone should not be punished for being very good at their job. Also, of course the advantage will go away fairly quickly, but that is how the NBA operates. Someone finds an advantage, exploits it and then everyone else follows suit. Stepping in at this point is quite arbitrary. What about all the tampering that has been an issue for years? It is bad enough that the officiating in the league is manipulated by the NBA front office..... it already calls into question the very competitive nature of the game..... but then to inject themselves into something like this? After all the other crap?
