Here's a question for you: If person A accuses person B of not being able to objectively do their job because of the country that their parents were from, is that not racism/xenophobia being displayed by person A?
You do? Bobby leaving was the best thing to happen to this forum. Too bad dachuda is trying to take his place.
Just as an aside on this, I believe that "classically liberal" meant opposition to government monopolies or government large-scale presence in the marketplace. Essentially, "freeing up" the market so that anyone (or more people) could enter it. So, when Andrew Jackson "waged war" against the Bank of the US, he was being "classically liberal." It was probably more of a term of the 18th and 19th centuries. Of course, the word "liberal" got a very different definition in the 50s and 60s. Over time, it became a pejorative, and now those on the left don't use it for that reason -- opting for "progressive."
This whole thing is rather worn out, IMO. There's not much if any evidence that Trump is racist. Here's the much bigger question. Why is the left so obsessed with racism? While bad, it's not the worst thing in the realm of human existence. Everyone on the left seems to think that the Warsaw Ghetto, round 2, is just around the corner (it isn't). Nor is racism even remotely the cause of poverty and criminality in some communities. Here's the answer: the left is obsessed with calling people racists because it enables them to enact their leftist agenda. Anyone who has read "The Strange Death of Europe" can easily see how mis-use of the term enabled the left and the socialists to enact their agenda without much opposition, in central and western European countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strange_Death_of_Europe Now, no one in Europe can question immigration policies without being labeled "racist." And if you are labeled that, you and your cause are done, in Europe. I hope that we don't reach such a miserable state of affairs in the US, but it does look like we are headed that way.
Ok how about drought, earthquake, flood, pestilence, disease, starvation....these are all much worse things, and they don't need racism to exist.
This what you say is false. I am still here. All arguements were addressed. Nor do I support Trump. I have said that a lot. I just don't think he is racist.
Anyone who vehemently defends a racist like trust as not being a racist is well, you know. so why argue with him?
I like you outside of this forum, @dachuda86, but here you become something I don't recognize as the Rockets fan and Hangout denizen I enjoy. You start a thread with a title that says, President trump is Not a Racist, supposedly supported by a little video, and no content of your own, and when presented with numerous cases of trump being a racist, you run away from "debate and discussion" about your own thread. You keep asking people to prove trump's a racist, and it is proved over and over again, while you continue your charade that you don't support trump, while spending an inordinate amount of time over and over again defending a man you say you don't support. It screams dishonesty on your part. When you can't support you argument in favor of the fellow you claim not to support, you run away. You don't present facts, although we do. So you run away. You've tried several times in this thread. Waved off whatever truth folks here shoved in your face. So now you're running away from it. I called you a coward for running away from your own instigated argument, but I also called you something far worse. A time waster. A bigot supporter. You can chew on that some more, or you can read @Rashmon's list again and prove it wrong, point by point. You posted this thread and now are you going to keep running away from it, or admit that you are wrong? From Rashmon, again: 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before. 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.” 1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speechaccusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China. 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary. 1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interviewthat “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.” 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices. 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.” 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of adssuggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.” 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’” 2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.” 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.” 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private. 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
