Sources: Rockets pushing for a RYNO trade before the deadline

Why is that a mistake? Do you realize how bad Anderson is? Why don't you check his stats, 36% from 3 while being horrible defensively you think Green, Ariza or Luc can't shoot 36% from 3? Last year Anderson was garbage in the playoffs shooting 25%, I fail to see how will be any better this season.

Just because you can clear him now doesn't mean that same opportunity will be there later. What if you keep Anderson and he shoots 25% like what he did last year? And then people look at his horrible performance and don't want to get him anymore? If the Rox are able to get rid of Anderson they should do it, period.

 

Why can't the Rockets find a good PF???

 

Anderson is making 19.6M, the rox will have 18M in capspace next year. 19.6+18 is what?

 

Because they traded him for Thomas Robinson.

 

LeBron

 

I don't really see the Pels angle. McCaw/Bell/Iggy and some very late picks doesn't seem like that would be anywhere close to an acceptable offer. Iggy as an asset is ridiculous - he has 3 years left on a deal that pays him like a 6th man until he is 37. Sure he has value on the right roster but I don't think there are very many teams that need him at that price for that long meaning the Pels would likely be saddled with a non liquid asset - that's like paying someone to take Boogie off your hands and Mcaw/Bell aren't worth the expense of it.

 

Where's the part where you account for Chris Paul's $35 million cap hold? Ariza's ~$14 million cap hold? Capela's $7 million cap hold (assuming he doesn't quickly sign an offer sheet in July, in which case it could be much higher)?

 

The best case scenario for the Rockets is that Lebron push for a trade to Houston right now.
The problem for us is what we can offer.
2019 first
Rights to change order in 2018 and 2020
Hartenstein ana Onaku
Off course Ryno
And Tucker or Gordon

 

I'd like to trade Anderson, and I would give up a pick, but who are our options for a shooting PF/C? Our success comes from keeping teams off the offensive glass, 1st in the NBA. Running LMAM and Ariza running PF with Tucker as a starter and Green playing G/F could work, but Tucker is old and I question if he can carry an actual offensive load and not get injured.

Marvin Williams would be great, maybe we give up a pick and take on Zeller's contract, killing 3 birds with one stone.
Brook Lopez? He would be an improvement on defense but his 3 pointer has fallen off.
Channing Frye? Ryan Anderson with even worse defense.
Nikola Mirotic? He's probably the best player of the bunch but I don't know if we have the assets to get him while dumping Anderson's contract.
Zhou Qi? Man, get outta here with that ****.

 

I'm guessing Morey knows what hes doing, got something up his sleeve.

Regarding Ryno- I'm not that bothered about his FG% at the moment- all shooters go through a confidence problem. What people are underrating are his- With decreased FG%/ less shot attempts, for 30+ min what is he doing?:

-Spaces the floor/ chemistry (Chris Paul never had this much open space inside with Clippers)
- Decent Rebounder/( As seen in GSW game) /extra big body (Second tallest on team)
- Sets picks for everyone
- There will be games he will light it up
and when everyone else is healthy, Rockets are undefeated......

Not sure if we need a PF to clog up the lanes, not sure if just about anyone else can do the above.
Well Morey, Hopefully this lands someone else 's Talents to the South Coast again......

 

I was just replying to the other poster who said dumping Anderson wouldn't create max caproom. Dumping Anderson result in the Rox having around 60M in salary for 101M cap. They can always renounce FA to get rid of capholds if they want to. At the end of the day its still better to have 40M in cap room than 18M in cap room.

 

is Mo Speights a player who we can trade for?

 

If Anderson was creating so much space for Paul then it would show in +/- because the other guys would score more with him around. Instead, Anderson's +/- is negative which shows the teams actually lose to the opponent with him on the floor.

So it doesn't matter how much "space" he creates it still results in the Rox losing to the opponent when he is playing. It is arguable that Andersons spacing is better than Luc, Ariza or Green esp when they are all shooting at the same rate.

 

Some food for thought, I guess. Maybe we're so sure he's going to suck so bad for our team that he's worth removing.

Addition by subtraction.

EDIT: At the first 2 pages, cyberx says DMorey is doing this now so that we can have an easier time dealing 2 smaller contracts in the offseason.

 

Wow I forgot about him, he's shooting about the same rate from 3 as Anderson, IDK how good his defense is anymore tho, they have similar defensive rebounding %, so I doubt we lose much on that front.

 

If the Rockets dumped Anderson for $0 in returning salary AND renounced their rights to EVERY free agent (including Paul, Ariza and Capela), and even waived Troy Williams and Zhou Qi, the most cap room they would have is about $37.5 million.

Is that enough to sign LeBron outright? Yes.

Would LeBron want to come to that team? Absolutely not.

The entire premise of the Rockets getting LeBron is that he'd want to come over to play with CHRIS PAUL. In order to retain Chris Paul, the Rockets will likely need to pay him a lot of money. Until they re-sign Paul, his cap hold will count over $35 million against the cap, eating up nearly all of the cap room created by dismantling the second best roster in the NBA and making the entire exercise completely pointless.

THAT is why I think the Rockets would prefer to remain OVER the cap and to try to acquire LeBron via "opt-in-and-trade" much like they did with Paul last June.

In order to do that, the Rockets need to have the requisite salary to trade for matching purposes. They will need Anderson's salary, or at least another salary large enough to help make it work.

 

That's a move I was thinking about. Anderson FITS the Nets run and gun system and is locked up. Carroll fits the type of player the Rockets want in a combo forward that can defend and hit 3s. He also has 1 more year on his deal and with his improved play his contract isnt viewed as a negative. He could help NOW and be moved more easily.

 

Carrol's play hasn't improved, his efficiency has declined. He's just putting up empty stats on a bad team.

 

yea he's getting lost in the Orlando's rotation and he's only getting paid 2.5 milly so package one of our young players + 2nd pick?

 

There are cases where having NO Cap Room is better than having 40m. This is one of them.

In this case , its better for the Rockets to operate Over the cap - It allows them to retain all their key components that are free agents as well as bring in a max contract type player be that Lebron or someone else by giving up Ryno and salary filler.

Lebron opts in - you send Ryno +EG (only single contract large enough to combine with Ryno) and whatever draft choices , DL / overseas players to Cleveland.

Resign Ariza with bird rights.

Resign CP3 to his max using bird rights.

Match any offer Capela gets.

Use the Taxpayer MLE for Luc.


The values of Ariza , CP3 & Capela don't even matter , they could literally all be signed to the ma - and you started out Over the cap.