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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. adoo

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    Former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates is set to testify May 8 before a Senate judiciary investigation into Russia's interference in last year's elections, led by Sen. Lindsey Graham, her second congressional hearing at which she's scheduled to testify within the span of a week.

    Yates' appearance before would mark her second time when the former Obama appointee has been called to the Hill to testify on Russia's meddling. Yates has been invited to testify before the House intelligence committee May 2, in a high-profile public hearing.

    Yates was originally expected to tell lawmakers last month about

    phone calls between Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn and Russian ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. But House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes abruptly postponed that hearing as part of a maneuver with the White House, which ultimately ended in him stepping away from the Russia investigation two weeks later and becoming the subject of a House ethics probe himself.​

    The Washington Post reported last month that the White House sought to block Yates' testimony, citing attorney-client and presidential communications privileges -- but White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Trump had no objection to Yates testifying.


    The House and Senate intelligence committees have been running the primary investigations into Russia's meddling in the election and possible coordination with Trump campaign aides. But other investigators, including Graham, have been probing those connections as well.
     
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    Politico is reporting on this Turkey / Russia / Flynn ménage à trois


    The Turkish man who gave Mike Flynn a $600,000 lobbying deal just before President Donald Trump picked him to be national security adviser has business ties to Russia, including a 2009 aviation financing deal negotiated with Vladimir Putin, according to court records.

    The man, Ekim Alptekin, has in recent years helped to coordinate Turkish lobbying in Washington with Dmitri “David” Zaikin, a Soviet-born former executive in Russian energy and mining companies who also has had dealings with Putin’s government, according to three people with direct knowledge of the activities.

    This unusual arrangement, in which Alptekin and Zaikin have helped steer Turkish lobbying through various groups since at least 2015, raises questions about both the agenda of the two men and the source of the funds used to pay the lobbyists.
     
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    at the White House correspondents’ dinner, entertainer, Hasan Minhaj,a first generation Muslim immigrant dished out zingers at everyone, including these:

    “We gotta address the elephant that’s not in the room. The leader of our country is not here.
    And that’s because he lives in Moscow, it is a very long flight. It’d be hard for Vlad to make it.
    Vlad can’t just make it on a Saturday ! As for the other guy, I think
    he’s in Pennsylvania because he can’t take a joke.”

    “[Donald Trump] tweets at 3 a.m. sober. Who is tweeting at 3 a.m. sober?
    Donald Trump, because it’s 10 a.m. in Russia. Those are business hours.”

    “It was all fun and games with Obama, right? You were covering an adult who could speak English.
    And now you’re covering Agent Orange, so you gotta take your game to a whole new level.
    It’s like if a bunch of stripper cops had to solve a real-life murder.”
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    are people still following this? or have they given up?

    just curious
     
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    Just a reminder a week from Tomorrow Sally Yates, who Trump tried to block from testifying, will be testifying in a public hearing.

    Are people still following Trump/Russia... of course they are as the facts come in. Just this last week-

    -The Flynn story the other day was the lead story for nearly 24 hours.
    -Elijah Cummings accused the GOP of stalling the investigation as well
    -Jason (her emails) Chaffitz said that Flynn likely did break the law.
    -Trumps admin refused to give ethics committee basic documents to not comply with investigation(then blamed Obama of course)
    -Trumps taxes continue to be a hot button issue he's pressed on as he tries to roll out a tax plan (tied to questions about Russia financial connections)

    The Trump Russia story isn't just a one time story. It IS like gravity for the Trump presidency... everything seems to fall down towards it and cast doubts about Trumps priorities.

    We know about the circumstantial evidence and we know about the ties. Trump Russia is a thing that's not going away and Even if Comey comes out tomorrow and says that Trump didn't commit any prosecutable crimes that doesn't mean that Trump or his fans can chant victory. At the end of the day ,like Hillary and her emails except 10x worse, he used poor judgement and created this controversy himself and helped (knowingly or unknowingly) a hostile foreign power in attacking our democracy.

    There is no win or loss coming for either side. We all already lost due to Trump being a "Useful Idiot" at the very least. And if you think we have already seen the worst of it you haven't been paying attention. At some point there will be a conclusive report made based on the findings of the FBI, etc and even if we learn nothing else, it's still not going to be a winning argument for Trumps legacy.
     
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    Nice Bump though Texx
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    So where is the impeachment?

    lol
     
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    Watergate took what 2-3 years before a resignation was forced? Can't read into the future and say for certain anything will come from this but investigations take time, especially when Trump's staff is trying to delay public testimony from people like Yates.
     
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    ii remember my US history,

    at the outlet of the Watergate investigation, Nixon (thru his mouth piece Ron Ziegler), bashed the media incessantly, and never addressing his people's involvement in the break-in of the DNC office at the Watergate Hotel.

    Agent Orange and Spizer bashed the media, steadfastly maintaining that the Russian connection is a non-issue, while never addressing his people's meetings w Russian diplomats and then lying about them.

    it's eerily similar.
     
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    Biggtexx was probably drawing in crayon on the school walls that Nixon wasn't impeached yet...
     
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    First evidence of the budding relationship between Russia and Trump
    Feb 18, 1990
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    Here are a couple interesting articles on why Scott Adams predicted a landslide.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-dilbert-explains-why/?utm_term=.4d651524cf86

     
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    Heh, comic strips. Meanwhile, the investigation continues...

    Senate Committee Asks Carter Page to Reveal Russian Contacts
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...s-carter-page-reveal-russian-contacts-n755516
     
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    Hmm... seems Trump transition officials had concerns about Flynn's interactions with Russian officials... hmm...

    Flynn was warned by Trump transition officials about contacts with Russian ambassador
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...37ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.09ea0cb0f64a
     
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    Nixon's Whitehouse versus the media (and really against any criticism) began pretty much right away in 1969.

    This from Steigerwald's excellent tome on the 1960's. (Yes, it's in a data base for a big history book I'm writing. Mwahahaha!)

    Agnew gave a speech in November of 1969...

    “The news anchors and their peers in the national press were a ‘small and unelected elite,’ Agnew charged."

    “Agnew lumped together the protestors, the professors, the media, and the hippies as the nation’s main enemy. Together they were
    ‘an effete corps of intellectual snobs'
    ‘hard-core dissidents and anarchists’ and a
    ‘glib, activist element’ given to
    ‘a spirit of masochism.’ "


    I mean, they used bigger words than Trump's crowd, but it's the same damned idea. Identical.
     
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    so i looked up on quotes by Agnew, i like this the best

    In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism.
     
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    Did Agnew say that before or after he went to prison for extortion, tax fraud, bribery and conspiracy?
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    That was said about his colleagues in Cell Block 4C.
     
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    Please read this whole article. The cheeseburger obsessive promotion for a multi million dollar golf course is hilarious.

    Also ... more confirmation that Trump is backed financially from Russia as if there was still questions from the (maybe he is really under audit) crowd.
     
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    If the spin is really "Obama let Flynn keep his security clearance!", they're desperate. Obama fired Flynn. DoD renewed his clearance. And:



    Trump was considering Michael "If I did half of what Hillary did, I'd be in prison" Flynn as his VP pick up until the last moment. Obama warned him about Flynn and Trump still made him his National Security Advisor.
     

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