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Obamacare Replacement

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wizkid83, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    I would know because I know that there are people who post here who aren't as slow as you or the ironically named "realist"

    I didn't say there was a lot of them, but there are some here who aren't knuckle draggers.
     
  2. Major

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    By the end of February of the previous administration, major laws were passed. There have been none in this one - only executive orders. The two administrations have virtually no similarities at all. This is basically as ignorant a post as it gets.
     
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  3. No Worries

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    The last three Republican Congresses sent how many bills to the White House that Obama vetoed?

    The last three Republican Congresses failed to pass a single budget on time which threatened government shutdowns. They also failed to raise the debt ceiling which threatened the good faith of the US greenbacks.

    In short they acted like spoiled children, making Obama the adult in the room.

    A responsible Congress would have passed their budgets on time, with all of their spending cuts and without all of the drama.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL Obama being the adult in the room? You crazy kids and your hero worship.
     
  5. No Worries

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    LOL thinking those Freedom Caucus Republicans who did their damnest to burn the mother****er down were acting like adults.

    I'm sure the Republicans's intent was not to make Obama look like the adult in the room.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    Bobby going full Bobby. Ugleeee....
     
  7. CometsWin

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    Doctors love them some tort reform. I would too if I could kill people on accident and then have some law arbitrarily limit my responsibility. That's so Republican.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    "better" hahahahaha
     
  9. justtxyank

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    Companies already cross state lines.

    I don't understand this talking point. As long as you comply with the laws of the state, an insurance company can get licensed to sell in any state.

    What is it that people want precisely? Insurance companies to be able to sell a plan that meets the rules of North Dakota to Texas residents and not be required to comply with Texas laws?

    Not only does that create a race to the bottom, but is it really a conservative solution to tell states they don't have the right to regulate their own markets?
     
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  10. Amiga

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    I guess this is their 1st draft? I give it an F+. + for trying.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Just a draft. Tom price has expressed concern that the bill is too generous to people who need the tax breaks
     
  12. Mr.Scarface

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    Exactly. Some state allow Insurance companies to sell **** policies that don't cover the basics with high premiums. Republicans want those policies to be offered in all 50 states as a solution. Only people that helps is the insurance companies. Some of these policies are affordable in premiums, however, when the person goes to use it.....their out of pocket is INSANE.
     
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    Thanks. I have no real knowledge on this stuff.

    Would allowing US consumers to legally buy prescription drugs from other countries help at all? I already do it, but I didn't know if it was a viable cost saving solution.
     
  14. CometsWin

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    How do you buy prescription drugs from other countries?
     
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    Go on a website and buy them. You can buy anything. It's crazy lol.
     
  16. texanskan

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    Cheap insurance policies are great for insurance companies but they are also good for many young adults. Even a high deductible plan with 3 or 4 doctors visits covered by co-pay gets you that annual check up as well as maybe a visit if you get the flu or something is bothering you and you need to be referred to a specialist.

    It is not designed to be cheap if something happens it is designed to keep you from going bankrupt if God forbid you are in a terrible accident or get cancer.

    Problem with the old system is you would eventually get dropped if something bad happened problem now is its one size fits all and it is so expensive to be insured if you make more than 45,000usd that people like myself just won't buy insurance and instead of it working like Obama and the Democrats promised we now just had a massive welfare expansion with Medicaid which is a terrible program to begin with.
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    This is nothing but Obamacare 2.0. If the Republicans pass anything that looks like this, they WILL lose elections. Nothing in this proposal fixes any of the fundamental problems. Punishing people for not having health insurance is a bad idea all around.

    We need to find ways to make healthcare more affordable. This will never happen if patients are not held accountable for costs. Patients can't be held accountable when they have no idea when they are buried behind bullshit between the insurance companies and the provider.
     
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    50k a year used to be a decent salary. Now days a single person struggles to live on this much less minimum wage. Considering this same individual will be paying 5k a year on premiums alone, much less deductibles. And if they do have a serious illness, they will be paying another 7000 a year in deductibles. This is not affordable.

    Basic medical is not that expensive. A out of pocket dr visit can cost half as much as a dr visit with insurance. We should be forcing everyone to pay for basic dr visits out of pocket. The .gov can subsidize many of these costs by paying for equipment, facilities, ect ... Depending how much you make would determine how much you would pay out of pocket.

    We also need to stop subsidizing the rest of the worlds medication. We shouldn't be paying premium prices for Rx when the rest of the world is buying it for much less.
     
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    a single state purchasing department would cut cost of medication-supplies by 30-40% in comparison to current fragmented systems which would work like in most countries,you buy in bulk you save and you have more leverage. This would save pharmaceutical/medical companies Billions in marketing as well
     
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    Esquire Magazine seems to have come to same conclusion as former Speaker Boehner...

    There Is No Plan
    [QUOTE ] On Monday, the president* said that "nobody knew healthcare was so complex." I do not believe this is generally the case. (Dude, have you ever read a health insurance policy or, worse, an explanation of benefits?) After all, he also said he was going to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act on his first day in office. And the basic complication seems still to be caused by the fact that, out in the country, people are finally beginning to understand that Obamacare and the ACA are the same thing and that repealing "Obamacare" means losing the benefits you gained under the Affordable Care Act. As a country, we can be just a little slow.[/QUOTE]
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a53473/republicans-obamacare-repeal-replace/
     

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