They were awful Kubiak's first season, as he tried to rehabilitate Carr. In that regard, seeing as O'Brien won 9 games with Fitzpatrick and garbage... advantage: BO'B. Kubiak had his QB in place year 2 and promptly went 8-8 and 8-8. Injuries killed him. It still took him three years with his hand-picked QB to post a winning record. You've given BO'B, who is 20-15 with atrocious QBs, three games with his hand-picked QB. Seems fair. I always liked/defended Kubiak. His system is really fun to watch when it's clicking. And he had some horses; my god. But I think BO'B will get there. Bold prediction: the Texans are an appreciably better - if not downright really good team, weeks 9-16.
Well BO'b came in with a practically ready built elite defense already here. Watt, Mercilus, Joseph, Cushing. Granted he also drafted Clowney, Kevin Johnson, and McKinney, plus brought in Wilford so I give him (or RAC?) credit. But Kubiak came into a dumpster on both sides of the ball. Just need to make those moves on the offensive side of the ball. Right now we have Hopkins and maybe Fuller performing at an elite level, everyone else is pretty much struggling.
Yeah, the two situations aren't really comparable. BOB spent a year treading water with Fitz (Kubiak's "Carr" year), then jettisoned him for his "handpicked" New England protégées, who both fell completely flat on their faces. Now we have Osweiler, who is showing promise, but so far after 3 years the overall offense under BOB has been underwhelming (to be kind) and will be no where near what Kubiak had built by year 3 from scratch. The biggest problem this offense has isn't talent (though it is lacking in areas to be sure), it's strategy and adjustments. That's on the coaches. Changes need to be made.
True. I think that additionally personnel can limit adjustments. It's easier to adjust if you have an elite offensive line and a QB who knows the whole playbook. Seems like the Texans couldn't run or hit TEs over the middle at all so the Pats could just stay in cover 2.
Its also the O-line. BOB, like Kubiak, decided to not use high round draft picks on QB projects till he tried to solidify the O-line as much as he could. XSF and Martin were his picks... Winston and Duane Brown (along with Spencer, who was on track to be good) were Kubiak's picks. Its obvious to see why one has had more success than the other.
Kubiak didn't build from scratch; inherited some scrub WR named Andre Johnson... And let's not write the final chapter of the 2016 season just yet. Seems unfair to criticize BO'B for not doing something you only *think* he won't accomplish...
Not sure he was guru-able. But putting him in an easier system that ran the ball effectively and limited his "thinking" probably would've been a good thing.
Advantage Bill O'Brien. Kubiak has 25 years NFL coaching experience. There's nuances to the game he's gonna be better at handling just from absorbing things for so long. O'Brien is still the better coaching talent at the same point in their careers. 90+ QB rating out of Brian Hoyer, enough said. Conceptually O'Brien has a more versatile approach than Kubiak (does NOT mean versatile=better results. Kubiak's same system still produces, unlike say Chip Kelly). It does mean ability to adalpt instead of being "stubborn".
He was good at offense, but he wasn't willing to adapt. If he had gotten peyton maybe we would have won something. The issue with him was picking guys who couldn't run the D until he got wade who was not his pick.
I know one thing for damn sure.....John Elway has made this entire organization look like stupid assholes.
