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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. TheresTheDagger

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    Bobby said it best here.

     
  2. TheresTheDagger

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    Oh I see. These "people" he's briefing would simply ignore the sitting President and do what Trump is bidding. Do I have that right?

    What a bizarre criticism.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    That's not how those briefings go. The information only goes one direction when you are a nobody like Trump. It's not like he'd be getting briefed by anyone that matters or would have pull. There's simply no way Trump can be blamed for Obama administration failures. There's plenty of things to blame Trump for that are fair, no reason to blame him for things that are unfair.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Exactly backwards. Trump is briefed "by" people. He is free to ask questions and make comments. Those people are free to factor his questions and suggestions into the functional conversations/briefings that happen within the current intel/military/executive structure.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You're in the white supremacist basket of Trump deplorables. You're why Trump loves the poorly educated. A bunch of know nothings supporting the epic know nothing candidate spewing your know nothing rheotric.

    And really, grow up? Your buffoon candidate is the biggest name calling, playground bully in the history of politics. Read his twitter feed. A significant percentage of it is him trashing media and politicians critical of him. It's laughable. He's a clown. You're voting for a clown. Grow up? Bahaha.
     
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    of course it is BS. But Trump has had national security briefings where he could have shared his secret plan with people who could get it done.
    This can apply to Bobby's comment as well.
    He's getting briefed. These people have very high security clearance. They are or speak with policy makers. Trump is free to say whatever he would like. They can tell Obama and whoever else about the secret plan. Trump has a pathway to get his plans to people who can enact them.
     
  7. Rashmon

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    He has neither a plan nor any substantive policy proposals. Even his goose stepping bootlickers know this in their hearts of darkness.

    Much like Trump himself, they must pretend otherwise to maintain the con.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Having high security clearance means very little. The president's maids have high security clearance, doesn't mean that they are or speak with policy makers. You really are going out of your way to blame Trump for Obama's failures and it's weird. Trump is a really horrible person, there's plenty of things to legitimately bash him about, stick to those.
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    As long as he keeps bringing up illegal immigration and Muslims they could care less.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    No, this isn't about not blaming Obama. It's about showing Trump is full of it. If hits supporters believe that Trump has a secret plan that would wipe out ISIS like he says he does, he could share it and have stopped all the attacks.

    The fact house staff for Obama has high level clearance doesn't matter. The people in the briefings know the security information, are able to answer questions about it, and are regularly updated on it. They could pass along any workable plan the same as Trump could. His surrogate General Flynn also attended the briefings and has his own channels where he could get the plan put into action.

    Like I said, it isn't about that since Trump has no plan. It's about calling out his BS. Any supporter needs to admit he has no plan and is unprepared. Or admit that Trump shares some responsibility for all the ISIS attacks.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah....but that's not what you are doing.

    The kind of people who give those briefings aren't policy makers and aren't the people who are going to enact a new strategy. They aren't even the kinds of people who could suggest that to the president. This is coming off incredibly petty and it only highlights failures of the Obama administration.

    As to if Trump has a plan, I personally don't believe it, but there's honestly no way of knowing. Even if he did, he wouldn't have the power to get it enacted, so you can't blame him for his plan not being in action.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Trump and his surrogates absolutely have access to have his plan heard by the policy and decision makers. His VP choice is in congress. He has a US general involved with him. He has access
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah...still a reach. Stick to legitimate reasons to bash Trump, there's a million of them.
     
  14. Dei

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    I actually have a degree in chemistry. I do molecular modelling for a living.

    Most of his insults are on the mark. The very liberal media has covered him very unfairly. It's not an isolated event. They did the same thing for Brexit and all the right wing movements across Europe. And considering people have taken swipes against his hair and hands, I think he at least has a little cause to take swipes back. It's all fun. Get over it. You're like that little snitch that goes to the teacher than fixing the problem yourself. Grow up.
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    And you and your group are like the high school QB still trying to live in another time period. You need to grow up, because you are getting outcompeted left and right.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    It's not fun for anyone but know nothings and white supremacists like you. The Presidency isn't a game, it's not an office for sixth grade playground insults nor for childish stupidity on a loop, and you telling people to grow up is just another ridiculous comment in a ridiculous campaign by a clown show candidate.
     
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    Bobby is still harping on the same ol' tired narrative that the initial invasion of Iraq in 2002 is still justified. Him and Dick Cheney are the only two living souls who still agree with that ****ing disaster. He still is trying to blame the power vacuum that helped spread ISIS on Obama even though Obama did nothing more than follow Bush Jr.'s Status of Forces Agreement signed the year prior. In fact, Obama highly recommend letting some forces stay, but the current Iraqi regime said no and do you really want to go against the sovereignty of a country where you just spent billions of dollars and American lives instilling this new regime which is now an entire waste because you have to now reinvade Iraq AGAIN because you have to go against the sovereignty of the regime you just instilled.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    Thirty Days In the Hole is what you should get for voting Drumph

     
  19. Amiga

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    It will be great is his plan for everything.

    Trump plans for ISIS is essentially:

    1- Russia will defeat ISIS (great idea! and this is why he love Putin)
    2- ISIS was caused by Iraq (or US trying to do nation building). So no more future nation building (yea, ok, but what about ISIS now?)
    3- No more Muslim immigration from that region (ok, how does that suppose to defeat ISIS?)
    4- It's Clinton fault so no Clinton (and how does that stop ISIS?)

    Trump has no plan, but it will be great. But if you read between the line, what Trump believe in is to get the US out of everything oversea and that suppose to somehow, he think, solve all problems, including ISIS.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I really think that he will let Russia get whatever it wants (including all of Ukraine), will weaken NATO, let Russia lead in Syria - all in exchange for support of Trump's family business interests as well as support from the KGB.
     

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