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Mike Flynn...what's the deal?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by B@ffled, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. jiggyfly

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    The Court of Appeals is not the Supreme Court and the SC has no jurisdiction on this.

    Do you want to continue this and show how you don't have any clue about what the powers of the SC are?

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  2. jiggyfly

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    The Supreme Court is not deciding this, it's the state court of appeals.
     
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    Their related article pointed me to this oldie when it all first went down. Remembering the pre-Rona Trump days is a b**** innit? It's like blacking out after drinking suspect bootleg hooch and thanking God the day after because you're not blind.

    P.S. Is outsidethebeltway @Os Trigonum approved?

    The Trump White House knew Michael Flynn was under investigation and named him National Security Adviser anyway.

    The New York Times is reporting that the Trump transition team knew that retired Lt. General Michael Flynn was under investigation prior to naming him as Trump’s choice for National Security Adviser:

    WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn told President Trump’s transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, according to two people familiar with the case.

    Despite this warning, which came about a month after the Justice Department notified Mr. Flynn of the inquiry, Mr. Trump made Mr. Flynn his national security adviser. The job gave Mr. Flynn access to the president and nearly every secret held by American intelligence agencies.​

    Mr. Flynn’s disclosure, on Jan. 4, was first made to the transition team’s chief lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, who is now the White House counsel. That conversation, and another one two days later between Mr. Flynn’s lawyer and transition lawyers, shows that the Trump team knew about the investigation of Mr. Flynn far earlier than has been previously reported.

    His legal issues have been a problem for the White House from the beginning and are at the center of a growing political crisis for Mr. Trump. Mr. Flynn, who was fired after 24 days in the job, was initially kept on even after the acting attorney general, Sally Q. Yates, warned the White House that he might be subject to blackmail by the Russians for misleading Vice President Mike Pence about the nature of conversations he had with the Russian ambassador to Washington.

    After Mr. Flynn’s dismissal, Mr. Trump tried to get James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, to drop the investigation — an act that some legal experts say is grounds for an investigation of Mr. Trump for possible obstruction of justice. He fired Mr. Comey on May 9.​

    The White House declined to comment on whether officials there had known about Mr. Flynn’s legal troubles before the inauguration.
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    Leaving aside all of the questions about potential Russian interference in the election and the extent of contacts between Trump advisers such as Flynn and Russia investigation, this report raises mostly questions about the competence of the Trump transition team and the White House in general. Apparently, the notifications that Flynn and his lawyer sent to the Trump transition team were either consciously ignored by the people who received them, that they were not properly communicated up the chain of command, or that they were known by everyone, including Trump himself, and basically brushed aside as inconsequential. As a result of this Flynn was appointed to a position that gave him access to the innermost workings of the national security establishment as well as the nation’s top secrets.

    This news, of course, comes on top of the fact that we already knew that it was within a week or so after Inauguration Day that the Trump Administration was notified by then Acting Attorney General Sally Yates that Flynn had lied to the transition team and to Vice-President Mike Pence regarding his contacts with Russian officials after the 2016 elections. It wasn’t long after this that Yates was fired by Trump for her refusal to defend his original Muslim travel ban Executive Order in Court. Flynn, meanwhile, wasn’t dismissed until more than two weeks after Yates had advised the White House of his misrepresentations, and it was the day after that happened that Trump allegedly asked former F.B.I Director James Comey to drop the Flynn investigation in a conversation that many have characterized as a possible attempt to obstruct justice. Comey, of course, was himself fired by Trump earlier this month just days after he confirmed to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Bureau was investigating Russian interference in the election and contacts between the Trump campaign and the Russian officians during the campaign. Meanwhile, Trump has continued to defend Flynn notwithstanding the fact that he had left the Administration under a cloud. At the very least, all of this raises questions about the competence of the transition team and the people around Trump in the White House, as well about Trump himself to the extent that he apparently still sought to intervene on Flynn’s behalf even after having fired him for lying.
     
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    Whats the rush?

     
  6. tallanvor

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    The supreme court absolutely has jurisdiction on the judicial branch.....

    The Flynn case is being run in a US District Court. Above that is the Courts of Appeal and above that is the Supreme Court.

    Yes, the Supreme Court can remove the judge.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    Can you show how that works. Seems he is a federal judge, and I think that is a life time position, where impeachment is the only way to remove.
     
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    Dude this is on the state level not the judicial branch and the Supreme Court does nothing proactively it's just a deliberating body.

    Show me one instance of the Supreme court removing anybody.

    No the Supreme court cannot removed the judge neither can this court.

    District of Columbia
    The commission on judicial disabilities and tenure has the authority to suspend, involuntarily retire, or remove judges of District of Columbia courts upon the filing of an order with the D.C. Court of Appeals.
     
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    Ok I should not have said state because he is federal but I am still waiting on you to refute this.

    Article III judges can be removed from office only through impeachment by the House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate. Article III judgeships are created by legislation enacted by Congress.

    About Federal Judges | United States Courts

    So still nothing about the SC.
     
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    Yikes, Tallanvor eats ****, yet again.

     
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    Par for the course.
     
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    ...again...

    ...the FBI already knew that Flynn had had discussions with Russian (insert-whatever-the-heck-they-were) when they went to question him...

    ...nobody made him lie about what everybody involved already knew had happened.
     
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    DC Circuit giving Sullivan ten days to explain himself before they stomp his ass and dismiss the case.

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  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Do you ever get tired of being wrong about everything?
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    lol
     
  18. B@ffled

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    Flynn was not unmasked at the time of the call with the Ambassador. Is someone disputing that? The unmasking requests happened after and taken in context that Flynn was being investigated (actually cleared by then) the unmasking requests don't appear to me to be an abnormal thing. When Grennell gave up the list, it was supposed be an 'aha' moment for the right. There's is no 'aha' to the unmasking stuff, except the Powers' unusual amount of request is weird and she lied about it.

    Someone DID leak the contents of the call to the press. And this IS illegal. At least it used to be until it became illegal only if you're a republican. Which is a secret handshake deal. Like the unwritten book in baseball. So who is the leaker and should he or her have any consequence for leaking a classified call? I say YES. I'm betting the left says NO.
     
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  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Comical bullshIt. It's amazing that you believe these things.
     
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  20. mdrowe00

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    ...apparently not.:confused:
     
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