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You know why Yao looks lost in the game?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lignny, Nov 14, 2003.

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  1. lignny

    lignny Member

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    Because he was dizzled by our guards. They just dribbled from the right to the left then from the left to the right, consistently no passing, and all the sudden a surprise pass. They have no idea how to space the floor. No passing skills. NO Patient. No trust. Even in those winning games, I did not see any smartness. The lucky thing is that they got their shots fall in the early games. I think JVG should do something now. :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  2. SamFisher

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    .....[samfisher's head explodes]....
     
  3. keep_rudy

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    Not necessarily dude. I believe you feel very comfortable when reading bashing Yao posts. :D
     
  4. whats up

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    There should be a rule that newbie's shouldn't allow to make new threads. :p

    You can't blame someone's bad performance on his teammates. It's like saying "I was 2 for 52 and I blame my teammates for passing me the ball" or "I was 2 for 52 because my teammates sucking forced me to take bad shots."
     
  5. jediknight94595

    jediknight94595 Contributing Member

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    Newbies are the only ones who have a pulse around here.

    Newbies are the only ones who have the ballz to say whats on their mind.
     
  6. reptilexcq

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    Yea when the Rockets need a basket really bad to try to catch up with Dallas, you thought they would go inside to Yao, but no they let Francis dribble and then forced up a really bad shot.
     
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    The guards need to seriously improve on their 3-D passing skills. How many time I see Yao gets WIDE open atleast 2 counts on the PNR but never get the ball.:mad:


    YAO needs to improve on his aggression. I was so mad at Yao on one play where Nash jumped into his chest and Yao timidly raised his hands up and lean backward(he has just one foul). WTF was that. God damn use your whole damn 7'6'' 300lbs body and jump right into that miget and give him some pains. Send out the message to everyone that if your gonna dare jump into me prepare to get hurt. So much for that Tanner's post.:mad:
     
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    Did anyone watch the TNT analysis after the game? I remember Charles Barkley said about Francis being a good scoring guard, but not a decent passer.
     
  9. lignny

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    Oh, yeah. I heard this every single time when rocket's game was on TNT. Steve's assis/TO rate just sux! nO need to mention he ruined so many 2 on 1 in fast break by trying to score himself. The worst thing is that he seems never take the reponsibility for a lose. If you want to be a leader, you should take the responsiblity as well. He is an excusing-man.

    Here's what he said after this game vs his coach:

    "My main concern is not how we played against their zone or how we defended certain situations, it's the emotional stability that champions have to get to the next play, always," Van Gundy said. "Every team has a certain fragileness based on results not going your way. That's probably when I came (to Houston) the No. 1 thing I wanted to correct, and I still think it's the No. 1 thing, just being emotionally less fragile.

    "For us, the next step is when things aren't going our way, instead of playing a bit frustrated, is to be more determined."
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    "The reality is that we weren't making shots," Francis said. "Even though they went on a run, I thought we didn't knock down the quality shots that we normally do.

    "I don't think I saw guys frustrated. We couldn't convert. We got the shots that we wanted. We just weren't knocking them down. The way you go about it when you're not knocking down shots, is to play tougher defense. They were getting a lot of easy looks."

    He did not, however, agree with the term "fragile."

    "When they were making shots, I don't think guys were focused enough defensively to put a stop to it," Francis said. " `Fragile' is for teams that are in the lower echelon of the NBA. I don't think we're fragile one bit."
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  10. story_teller

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    *lol* Damn that Francis for saying he and his teammates didn't knock down shots and that their defense could've been better. How dare he not think his team is in the lower echelon of the league ! :rolleyes:
     
  11. sweetie

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    when JVG talks about fragile, I think he is referring to Yao. Yao just doesnt have the personality to "take over". He wants to be polite. Plus he is freakin slow likea robot and all his moves are cooreographed(sp) so the other team can strip the ball from him or cause him problems. He cant get open on his own by dribbling like Amare does or quick fakes like Hakeem.

    When you talk about Yao,follow everything up with "for a guy 7'5". He moves quick ,but only for a guy 7'5.

    He needs his teammates to make timely passes because he cant create a shot for himself. Its funny how the yao only fans are blaming Francis for not passing fast enough to Yao when Yaos open, but if Yao was truely a franchise center to build around or a leader,or a dominant big man he wouldnt need his teammates to help him get open,he would just get the ball and take over without anyone stopping him. He hasnt shown that since last years Dallas game for some reason when he scored 30 points that fast.

    Jvg doesnt want to bash yao in the media,ever notice that yet? But its obvious by JVg benching Yao during critical periods because Yao just doesnt get angry enough. PLus coupled with the fact that for some reason the refs are watching his every move and if he gets "aggressive" and tries to "take over" by dribbling to the hole,the refs will call a offensive foul EVERY time because he is so big the refs dont want him to make the League a joke. Just watch tommarrow Amare try to run over Yao and it will be called a foul on Yao, but when Yao tries to run over Amare its a offensive foul instead.

    Cant solve this problem other than Trade Yao. The other player I would want though would be amare. I bet Amare destroys Ming tomarrow. And I hate the suns but when I see Ming have trouble with swift,then shawn bradley,then cant score on Danny Fortson, Amare will eat his lunch.
     
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    I'm starting to notice something.

    Whenever we win a game, a lot of senior members post stuff.

    Whenever we lose a game, suddenly we get all these new members who start bashing Yao or Francis or Mobley. They start threads with the sole purpose of bashing them.

    I'm guessing that some people start new accounts and start a bashing thread under that account because they're too chicken to do it under their original account out of fear of being labeled a Yao-Only or Francis-only fan.

    I just think it's pretty tacky when a guy starts a bash thread right after a loss, and under his user ID, it says "2 posts"

    Maybe Clutch should require that new members have to post at least 50 times before they can start threads.
     
  13. Rox's Delight

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    so i see all of your point is to say you are a junior member of one kind?

     
  14. lignny

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    hi, tanner, this's just stupid. Although this is my first post, I have been reading this forum for a year. The reason I post today is cuz I am so sick of same kind of bad habits and stupidity happen year after a year. Face the fact please. I am not trying to bash after one lose. I just tell what I've seen. Even with all those wins, I cannot be satisfied with our guards' decision making. Maybe they satisfy you!
     
  15. whats up

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    You've been reading for a year? Your moniker is registered on Oct. 2003!

    Tanner is right! People create new user-names to start flame-bait threads. :)
     
  16. michecon

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    Beg to differ. He said that's the main situation LAST YEAR also--when Yao was not expected to be the man. I think he's talking of the guards ditch the game plan when pressured, going one on one, etc.
     
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    I agree - Yao has problems, too, but few of our perimeter players make good post entry passes. Few of them hit Yao on those split second chances where he is open for a dunk. Francis will try to do it once or twice a game, but it iwll usually result in a turnover as it is simply not the best pass.

    Obviously, Yao still has a lot of work to do on his game, but you got to start wondering when he is going to break down and get mad when he doesn't get the pass when he's in good position, close to the basket or wide open.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    ever since my head exploded, every stupid Yao-Steve-Cat bashing post is more enjoyable.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    How ironic
     
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    Yao has to go aggressively for the offensive rebounds instead of waiting for the guards to pass him the ball. The problem is that nearly every time he does that, referees call him a foul. Still, he has to continue doing this, and in the end, referees would have to let him play that way by going for offensive rebounds.

    By the way, maybe the problem that our guards can't pass the ball is that they are too SHORT, they can't see the court clearly.
     

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