Of course former USMC generals who dedicated their lives in service of the country are just bitter about being fired.
I'm not sure I'd call it a debate. It's more one side warning about fascism and the other side trying to obfuscate over the definition of fascism. Anyway, the whole fascism angle (which I find very motivating) went over like a lead balloon anyway. Whatever votes were going to be picked up on that issue have been picked up. Now, sadly, warning about fascism makes Harris look like Chicken Little. Talking policy doesn't do anything for her either. These things don't humanize her. I think she'd pick up more voters by competing in a daytime game show or doing a TikTok challenge.
@AroundTheWorld given-your soap boxing to us lefties about antisemitism, how do you feel about Trump’s admiration for yours and his fellow German Hitler? Do you deny his admiration for Hitler, if not how will you justify your vote for him?
to the MAGA base only, you mean, no? no so for the independents, the decline to state, the Dems who don't like Kamala, the Rep who can't stand Trump nor Kamala, etc.
Admiring Hitler and his tactics says less about someone's opinions about Jewish people than someone having empathy for Palestinians at least according to ATW. Having empathy for Palestinians is far more anti-semetic than admiring Hitler.
The thing about John Kelly is he's been a obvious conservative who also has harsh thoughts about things like immigration like most other conservatives. But Donald Trump's dehumanization of illegal immigrants was so extreme during his first term, Kelly while serving as secretary of state had to come out and explicitly stated that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are just normal people looking for work just lower the temperature of hatred rising in the country because of MAGA rhetoric.
How hard is it to just say yeah Hitler is a bad guy, and it's a bad thing that Trump admires him?? How much of a cult do you have to be in to literally have no ability to just say that at the very least? Instead you have to obfuscate, and find a way to deny that what Trump says and does is true. It's pretty disturbing that a German of all people can be like this. Have you learned nothing about the history of your own country??
Wow, sad you would trust Trump over guys who have demonstrated honor in the military. kelly has no reason to publicize this other than love and duty He has lost a son in Afghanisan
We shouldn't get hung up on whether it meets all the conditions for mid-20th century European fascism. It's instructive to understand how those fascist parties emerged and took hold of a people so that we don't slip down a similar hole. For example, a particular focus on “the enemy within” that needs to be eliminated like vermin is straight out of the fascist playbook. Trump 2023: “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. “They’ll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.” Trump went on further to state: “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not going to want to play with us.” Also, an obsession with purity and not being tainted by foreigners who don’t belong: Trump 2023: TRUMP: They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world - not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about but all over the world. They're coming into our country. Trumpism is about tapping into the same fears that allowed European fascism to take hold. If perhaps the foremost expert on European fascism sees the danger in it, we should be paying attention: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/...ytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Until then, most scholars arguing in favor of the fascism label were not specialists. Paxton was. Those who for years had been making the case that Trumpism equaled fascism took Paxton’s column as a vindication. “He probably did more with that one piece than all these other historians who’ve written numerous books since 2016, and appeared on television, and who have 300,000 Twitter followers,” says Daniel Steinmetz-Jenkins, an assistant professor at Wesleyan and the editor of a recent collection of essays, “Did it Happen Here?” Samuel Moyn, a historian at Yale University, said that to cite Paxton is to make “an authority claim — you can’t beat it.” This summer I asked Paxton if, nearly four years later, he stood by his pronouncement. Cautious but forthright, he told me that he doesn’t believe using the word is politically helpful in any way, but he confirmed the diagnosis. “It’s bubbling up from below in very worrisome ways, and that’s very much like the original fascisms,” Paxton said. “It’s the real thing. It really is.”
I think Trump is a malignant narcissist whose opinions can be all over the place. I doubt he has much knowledge of history. But I like the policies of the Republican party over those of the modern day far left woke Democrats BY FAR.
I don't think that he IS Hitler or even wants to be Hitler. I find it very hard to believe that he doesn't admire some of the qualities of Hitler - there have been a lot of references to Trump discussing Hitler over the last 30+ years. Many of these people intimately knowing Trump. Just because he admires the rhetorical skills or the base understandings of Hitler doesn't mean that he wants to be Hitler. I will admit that it is a little creepy - but I highly doubt he is the first major politician to study Hitler, Stalin, Napolean, Churchill and other effective communicators.
Does he want to eliminate all Jews? No Does he want unchecked absolute authority? Yes It’s not complicated
Right - but a lot of historical figures have wanted absolute authority..... Alexander the Great, Julius Cesar... I would even argue that FDR and Lincoln did.... that isn't unique to Hitler.... Stalin as well. Hitler was exceptional at rhetoric, reaching and exploiting the insecurities of the masses that usually lie dormant in the gut.... but Hitler didn't just discuss them, he said they are good things and should be given full exposure politically.... that and division, Hitler psychologically understood how to divide and get people to turn on other lesser number groups.
true that. According to his longest serving Chief of Staff, retired General John kelly, Trump would often praised the Generals served under Hilter, for their loyalty. When Kelly told him that many of Hilter's generals plotted to have him assassinated, Trump refused to believe that. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/
