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Yogi Ferrel

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bevo202, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. bevo202

    bevo202 Member

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    How bout using some our MLE on Yogi from the Mavs. Hed be a far superior option than MCW.
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    The MLE is set aside from Melo and Melton.
     
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    I was thinking about that... then I saw this
     
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  4. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    Yeah, this was just good cap management by the Mavs. By rescinding the qualifying offer while not renouncing their Early Bird rights to Yogi, it opens up another $1.4 million in cap room for the Mavericks to use before formally re-signing Yogi. They may be able to give that extra money to Dirk or possibly to another player.

    The Mavs may not be very good this season, but the way they have managed their cap this summer has been exemplary.
     
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    Hey Bima, unrelated question...
    Theoretically, if CC plays out his qo this year and we got under the luxury tax this year... would this eliminate repeat offender charges for the next couple years and save monster amounts of money in repeat offender charges?
    My understanding is that if CC plays out his qo we still have bird rights next year...
    Would it be mutually advantageous for the Rox to get under the luxury tax this year - and give CC whatever he loses this year by playing out the qo + interest next year?
     
  6. Mr.Pringles

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    What as a defensive option off the bench? Cause I doubt Yogi ranks in the top 10 in the NBA in defensive perimeter switching (MCW is #10). Too me that is the ideal of a #3 PG behind CP3 and Melton
     
  7. BimaThug

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    The Rockets would not have to pay the "repeater tax" (an extra 100% tax on top of the regular luxury tax) until the 2021-22 season at the earliest. That would be the final (player option) year on Chris Paul's contract, so there's a decent chance the Rockets might be stuck paying it that season. But after CP3's deal comes off the books, there's a chance the Rockets could drop below the tax threshold in 2022-23, which is the final (player option) year on Harden's deal.

    I'm guessing that the (rather substantial) risk that Capela just bolts next summer outweighs the benefits to the Rockets in "getting cute" with the qualifying offer and trying to duck the luxury tax this season.

    Oh, and assuming that the Rockets use the full Taxpayer MLE on Carmelo Anthony (and Melton?), they will STILL be over the luxury tax threshold this season, even with Capela playing for his QO amount.
     
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  8. cheke64

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    We already have clutch the bear don't need another one.
     
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  9. kjayp

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    THANKS SO MUCH for the info!

    That would seem to me to be HUGE savings... we're talking double the lux tax amount - which i have to assume will be substantial with Harden and CP3's contract + CC + whoever else gets added to the mix... for 3 years!

    I'm not saying 'get cute' with Capela - I'm saying strike a deal.... play out the qo this year and we'll give you 4/100 + 20m next year (if thats not over his max...) or whatever offer he gets elsewhere +20M.... regardless, he's got a 20M incentive to stay with us... heck make it 25M for playing ball...

    from that point... I gotta think getting under the threshold is within striking distance... would require an unadvantageous move or two... but we'd go into the next few years free of the repeater charges...
     
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    Lets go after Willie Warren! He would cost less.
     
  11. coachbadlee

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    No Booboo.
     
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  12. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    Dayum, look at the brain on Bima! ;)

    Just curious, do you do all this stuff off the top of your head? Or do you have a little Pocket CBA Guide with you at all times?
     
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    That's the real Darrell Murray :D
     
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  14. BimaThug

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    Ha! Thanks for the compliment.

    Most of this stuff I “just know” from studying it a bunch. But I sometimes refer to other resources. I used to go to Larry Coon’s CBA FAQs all the time for answers (and still do on some occasions). Now, if I can’t remember something off the top of my head, I refer to a “cliffs notes” index of the 2017 CBA that I wrote from scratch based on my review of the CBA itself.
     
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    As Bima said, it would be nice to plan out like that but you have Capela and his agent now balking at a deal they cannot beat on the market right now even if he got a max offer next year from some other team. Players do things out of spite even if not in their best interest so him bolting is a real possibility if he is not signed now. Agent has pumped his head that he is getting max but he now knows he is not getting that and having to reconcile. It's too big of a risk that even if you offered him max next year and some other team came close, he is still chasing the extra $20M in his mind he did not get by taking the QO this year and wants to punish you. Him EVEN signing the QO is an almost 100% declaration that he doesn't want to come back here. Suns played the game out with Bledsoe, ended up paying much later but soured the relationship permanently. As expected, he was hurt for the entirety of the contract until they had to trade him away for nothing, I mean Greg Monroe. The only way to keep Capela and not trade him or ruin the asset is to make peace with him now on your terms.

    We are 100% going to be a taxpayer. The CP3 contract guaranteed it. Any conversation on us starts with Harden $30.4M, CP3 $35.6M, EGo $13.5M, Ryno $20.4M, PJ $8.0M , Nene $3.6M, with Capela's QO and Melo's MLE puts us at $122M plus Green, Ennis, MCW, Onuaku, Qi, Melton, etc. We are already over the tax no matter what and whatever we transform Ryno's contract into likely means more money on the books no matter which players are included and we cannot make the contract disappear.
     

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