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Yao's post moves are the most refined...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by code9x, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. code9x

    code9x Member

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    that's what I noticed.

    He has the most variety and best looking post skills today among big men. Of course Hakeem was the king of post moves, but i'm talking about today.

    I have seen the other big men post moves. Shaq and Duncan. Shaq has some pretty decent post moves too and Duncan is pretty good. However it seems to me now that Yao has the most coolest looking post moves and most enjoyable among the big men today. And they look very unique and different from other players too. I don't see other players emulating some of his post moves at all today.....I only see Yao do it these days.

    What do you guys think. Do you guys agree?
    I'm waiting for Yao to add even more "weird" and cool looking post moves.
    He can become Hakeem 2 :D
     
  2. stonegate_archer

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    They do look good, still too many fade aways, we lost the 76er game because of those jumpers, got to go to the hole strong big man!!!!
     
  3. m_cable

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    Yao's moves are pretty sweet, and his repetoire is pretty varied. The only thing he seems to be missing are some up and under pump fakes. But I guess when you're 7'6" and dropping jump hooks from the freaking ceiling, you don't need no stinking up and under moves.
     
  4. tiger0330

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    Shaq is a beast, for an old guy he is still pretty explosive and athletic. Love his grabbing the offensive board and taking it up strong and jamming it all in a split second.

    Yao will be a fundamentally sound offensive player like Duncan rather than the athletic beast that Shaq is, I like Duncans high off the glass bank shot, I'd like to see Yao add that to his repetoire.
     
  5. daoshi

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    One thing I'd like Yao to do more is to shoot over defenders more, take less of fade aways. When you have that kind of size advantage, and can establish the deep position, only couple feet away from the basket, you need to go strong to shoot over people, not fade away.

    Good leapers can still block/disrupt his fade-aways when give space, but it's impossible for anyone to jump with 300lb hang on the body.
     
  6. YallMean

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    His sky hook and the half hook half toss in are unstopable. They may not going always, but I bet you 70% of the time they sink. If I were Yao, spin move is good, shoot over guys 7 inch shorter ok, I would still run the hook each and every time if the opponents dont close the lane, which they have to collpase on Yao and opens up other people.

    The thing of beauty of is he bumps off the MF hopping hacking him and power drill to the hole for a dunk. Never get tired of it. Never
     
  7. Jacquescas

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    the larger the repetoitre the better. I am in awe of what he has done. If anything Its sending a message to the league that teams need to start rethinking the center position.
     
  8. ShadyMcGrady

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    Yao has a lot of weapons in his arsenal, moves in his repetoire, etc. He will keep expanding and adding more and more variety to his repetoire over time. It would be SO NICE if he could shoot the 3 ball like Brad Miller. No team could guard a guy that tall out so far, plus, he could take anyone of the dribble with those handles of his. ;)
     
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    most of them looks like walking ;)
     
  10. YallMean

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    Is this a joke? I dont get it. :mad:

     
  11. Mack

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    The thing is, Yao already has exhibited moves such as the up-and-under, and the high bank shot before. I remember him beating Dikembe with the up-and-under when Dikembe was a Knick. I remember seeing the high bank shot, executed after a baseline-spin-and-reversal on Theo Ratliff of the Blazers.

    I think Yao stopped doing the up-and-under because it gave the defenders a better chance to recover. Kirilenko in particular stuffed him several times on this move. I guess when you're 7'6", you really don't need to be fancy. It probably isn't easy to go "under" someone when you're 7'6" either ;)

    I'd still love to see a running/driving jump hook like Patrick Ewing had, just so Yao could draw more fouls or dish out some punishment.

    I'm still amazed at the body coordination of Yao. It's just incredible that a 7'6", 300+ lb guy can be so fluid. If you remember "Two Sammiches" Hamilton, you know how awkward someone this size can look. Yao's baseline spin is lethal - everyone in the league must have scouted that move, yet Yao still beats defenders with it every game.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    I think you still give Duncan the edge, for now. He has proven it in the playoffs by being so consistent in the low post. But I would probably put Yao second.
     
  13. oldgunrules

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    Yes it cracks me up every time I see he makes his defender lose balance with that spin. I wonder why he doesn't do that at other positions such as near top of the key area. One spin he's right under the basket, wouldn't that work?
     
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    Once Yao starts doing a shoulder fake baseline and taking it into the lane instead, the league might as well give up with defending him one-on-one all together (of course they're practically there already).
     
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    When Yao gets the ball, I think 1st he is eyeing that baseline. He actually attempts to spin by more often than we see. But lot of times, it is closed by his defender. Then he will do fadeway or whatever just to get rid of the ball. That's when his accuracy drops.

    To me, Yao maybe can trying spinning once or twice a game. He should be determined to use his height advantage either by jump hook or power back downs to hole. I dont think he should try anything else. Of course, he may turn around shoot over people if he is crowded.

    I just dont think Yao needs so many fancy moves to be effective. Being cute sometimes hurts hime. Just power moves, then be done with it. I can live with it even if he miss them.

     
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    If Yao can develop a running jump hook, he can incoporate it with his spin move. Spin to the left instead of the baseline and fire a running hook, it will be lethal.
     
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    I've noticed the last few games Yao has used a running jumper in the lane, reminiscent of what Patrick Ewing used to do with Knicks.

    His repetoire is quite impressive. He needs to just master what he has, and then add to it very gradually. Too many different moves to choose from might mess up his rhythm.
     
  18. TECH

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    The more he bangs, the more fatigued he gets. It takes a toll, wrestling guys in the post. His improved strength has definately helped him in that regard, and he'll surely get stronger. It takes strength to keep guys from coming around you, and the stronger he is, the more effective he'll be, and the less fatigued he'll get.
    It's not just his cardio endurance that has him grabbing his knees.
     
  19. MrButtocks

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    With the skills Yao has at his disposal he shouldn't be relagated to banging down low on every possession. If that were the case you could just throw out the Shanghai Spin and fadaway. One of the great things about Hakeem was that he could string together a bunch of moves that would leave defenses helpless. Yao doesn't have to be like Dream, but he does need the instincts to react to whatever the defense gives him.

    He's doing well in that regard. In the minnesota game Yao did his spin and a defender was right there to meet him. Yao didn't have the lane so he just used glass to bank it in. Improvisation is key to Yao's success. If he bangs it down low everytime, he'll be too easy to guard like Eddy Curry or Mo Taylor. Not only will Yao be one dimensional, but all that physical brutality will shorten his career.
     
  20. richirich

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    I think Yao should shoot 3p's! :D Just kidding.

    Although I would like to see him try it once & a while at the end of quarters instead of Wesley.

    I think his progress is tremendous, the toe being healed seems to help immensely.

    Yao is starting to add some moves to the basketball then catch the pass and shoot but he only seems to use it once every 2-3 games. But sometime a defender is going to be caught out of position, Yao is going to knock that person beyond the photographers and then I guarantee that people will be staying out of his way.

    I agree now that he has perfected and moved beyond the Ewing clone posting, added some hakeem moves, he needs to gradually add more movement, some jump shots 1-2x a game, and keep working the passing back & forth inside with Hayes, Swift & Tmac. He cannot continue to get banged 75 possessions a game.

    By the end of the season I expect Yao to just be awesome with an amazing repertoire of skills. And don't forget now he has the players around him that can get him the ball, esp. Rafer.
     

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