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Yao's agent questioning Chinese NT's training method

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragon167, Apr 28, 2003.

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  1. dragon167

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    http://sports.tom.com/Archive/1019/1042/2003/4/28-54505.html

    I think Yao's agent is afraid that Yao would be burnt out. Yao will stop any kind of training for 2 weeks. Yao's career would be shorten if he cant have proper rest. His agent thinks that summer camp is very important for yao and he hopes yao can attend it next year. He is also questioning the training method of the national team.

    I think the article addresses something that the posters here are interested. I would leave the translation to someone with better english skills. Thans in advance.
     
  2. Yetti

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    Its about time one of our regular translators had a go at this! We need to know whats going on!
     
  3. A-Train

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    Yao needs to take a page from one of the all time great Centers, Hakeem Olajuwon........

    ...and fake a hamstring injury so he can get some rest this summer! :D
     
  4. wizkid83

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    Wow, it's quite a criticle article against the Chinese NT, they even went as far as saying that some of their players around 33 that should be in their prime are instead plagued with injuries because of the NT trainning methods and that the training methods hurts no only physically but psychologically.
     
  5. windandsea

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    There are tons of interviews and articles about Yao Ming in Chinese media after he returned home.

    Two things I want to mention at here:

    1. Yao said, "As long as Rudy stays, we will definitely be in playoff next year." He also said that, "I think there will not be any big changes in the roster, because my teammates and I have adjusted to each other. We have had some chemistry."

    http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2003-04-28/1018432631.shtml

    2. Yao talked about some NBA centers. He says he probably will never catch up with Shaq. He cannot achieve what Sabonis did at his peak time either. He learned a lot from Divic, because Divic had the same physical strength as himself. He performed two "flops" at the game 2 with Kings in front of Divic and made Divic in foul trouble. When he was on the line he told to Divic "Thank you. I have learned a lot from you." Divic answered with dark face "I knew it."

    Yao said he had found the way to beat Bradley after the game 4 with Mav.

    http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2003-04-28/0954432593.shtml
     
  6. sun12

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    Haven't I mentioned this many times before?
     
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    "Yao talked about some NBA centers. He says he probably will never catch up with Shaq. He cannot achieve what Sabonis did at his peak time either."

    Well that's great. It's nice to know that our supposed soon-to-be superstar center has no confidence in his abilities.
     
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    He might refer to Shaq's physically dominant game which I kinda agree with him.
     
  9. wizkid83

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    His quote actually surprised me a lot. In this quote he said that "usually when he sees a surprior player, he'd always try to surpass him but that was before he played O'neal. After playing Shaq he said he got the feeling that he would never be able reach that level in this life time. That Shaq reached the peak of all the level of size, strength and speed ideal for a center. This is why he had to study Divacs, if he can just limit Shaq to 20 pts he consider it a victory"

    The following quote made me feel a little better "outsided of Shaq, Sabonis and Divacs he feel he can't beat any center after playing them once by finding their weakness" but wtf was w/ the first quote.

    Also reading the origincal article again it can be really serious concern, loosely translated

    Yao did a full body check before going back and the tests was omnious. They believe that the intense playing caused Yao to have some internal problems. It's not something that can fixed or obvious, but something inherent that can affect Yao's pro career. They feel like he should rest IMMEDIATELY and stop any sort of phyical training/excersice. It can cut his career by one third to one half. That's why he was forced to rest.

    THIS IS QUITE SCARY FOR ALL ROCKETS FANS AND YAO FANS.
     
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    what you call "no confidence", i call humility.
     
  11. Thanos

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    That was vintage ZRB and I echo his sentiments.

    That quote makes me feel really uncomfortable.

    So much for the "I will try and eventually conquer that mountain" or something like that he said before facing Shaq...
     
  12. Cipherous

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    its not humility. He has no confidence in himself.

    Yao is basically saying "why bother, I'll never be as good as Shaq...so why should I even try"

    It shows his lack of competetiveness. I hope he actually didn't say that.

    To be a great player, you need fire and desire. Yao needs to understand that.
     
  13. Cipherous

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    I don't like how Yao goes from

    "Shaq is a mountain in my way, I'll conquer it by any means"

    to

    "I'll never be good as Shaq"

    he goes from wanting to beat Shaq to being subservient to Shaq.

    Not a good sign.
     
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    Yes, but Hakeem was never as strong or powerful as Shaq, but he was able to dominate him in other ways.

    Remember, Shaq's weaknesses are Yao's strengths. Yao should improve his weaknesses and fine-tune his strengths. And who knows? One of these days Yao could be "better" than Shaq.

    Never put a limit on what you can do. The moment you *think* you are beat, you are.
     
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    But the thing is I think Yao feels a little beat. He feels that the closes thing to solution to Shaq is Divacs. I dunno how valid those quotes are but they are concerning.

    But he did say outside of those three no center bothers him, which I liked once again.
     
  16. DavidS

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    I remember a reporter asked Yao what did he notice about America.

    Yao said, "their competitiveness." He wasn't talking just about basketball, but in general. And he's right. Americans are competitive.

    But it was almost a indication that he was far removed from such petty things.

    Not a good sign. If Yao doesn't develop a competitive fire, then he will get pushed around. Because he will always be a target.
     
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    Its quite obvious that Yao Ming is trying to reduce the heat from Fans expectations by drawing these limitations. I think most fans want him to be like this, or be as strong as him, or be a great this or be a great that. I think he just wants to be Yao Ming and not any other player!
     
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    Well, I hope that Yao hits the weights next year and gets strong. Because he'll be surprised how much stronger he will be, and maybe that will give him more confidence.
     
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    inherent= basic
    ominious= danger, threatening
    obvious = apparent
    If I try by using these meanings of words used by the translator I still cant understand what he is talking about! There is no substance to give any understanding of what he is refering to!
     
  20. dragon167

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    Sorry, I dont know whether I can properly translate yao's quote but i will try. It's a short conversation about shaq with only two sentences. He said he feels that he probably would never catch up with shaq because shaq set a new standard of the position of centre with his SIZE, POWER AND SPEED.

    I think Yao realise he lacks physical strength and athleticism and that's why he wants to learn from Divac because they are similar in terms of size, strength and power.


    For long time nba fans, can you tell me how did dream guard shaq? Did shaq play "bang, bang bang and dunk" game with him?
     

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