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Yao will never be great

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tbui, Dec 11, 2004.

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  1. tbui

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    There's been a lot of talk about Yao and whether he's the next great center in the NBA. You see him everywhere from billboards to Nike and Gatorade commercials. But how much of this is hype and how much is reality. Being a Rox fan, I understand that most fans support the guy, but we have to be objective. You look at all the great NBA players from past to present and see that it took them a relatively short period of time to develop into the superstar, franchise type player. It took Michael 3 years to reach this franchise status, Kobe 4, Shaq 2, Iverson 3and Lebron looks like he's on his way next season. But Yao hasn't shown us much. Yes, he's imprved marginally in the past couple of seasons, but he hasn't shown us the ability to dominate. Yeah he's had some glimpses but these other players showed us the ability to take over a game and give us clutch play even in their early years. Yao is more like Nash and Ben Wallace, good players and all stars but not great. He is probably like Wallace more than Nash because he doesn't really make other players better. In my view, Yao will never be a great player.
     
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    Nash and Ben Wallace are both great players.

    Yao can be slow. We only need him to develop fast enough to bring some championships.
     
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    Do we need to same posters keep opening a single thread every now and then, and tells us that Yao is going to be great/never going to be great?

    These YOFs simply lost patience on Yao and find themselves on troll list now.;)
     
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    I am glad to know that you have a crystal ball and can see this after only 2 and a third seasons.

    Quit ya hatin'
     
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    I notice that all the low post guys on the Rockets are now ferocious brickers with their hook shots. All 3 guys have had dependable low post moves who have all but disappeared. I contend the Rockets need a different offensive drills coaching assistant.

    I liken the situation to Harry Spilman getting fired from the Astros with Gary Gaetti coming on board.
     
  6. tbui

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    I'm talking about great players. There has been so much expectation for Yao because many of us and the media have coronated him and deemed him as the next big thing. But is this fiction or reality? Perception is one thing and the truth is another. THe expectations are that he will be the next great center after Shaq, a Chamberlain, Russel type player. But he has't shown us anything! He sucked in the playoffs last year and he is the most inconsistent all-star in the league. Right now, he's probably in the 20's in the top 25 NBA ballers. How is this a sign of greatness. It took people like Nash and Wallace a long time 3-4 years, but they aren't great players. They're complimentary players and not franchise players like a Duncan or Shaq. Most of the great players I mentioned stepped up in their early years and took control of the reigns. I think it's also a mental thing. Just liek not everyone can be an executive or President in real life, not everyone can be a franchise player and this has to do with personality and desire. That's why VC isn't great, Penny in his heyday, a young Derrick Coleman, and Peja aren't great.
     
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    tbui i am tired of your ****
     
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  9. tbui

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    It's a lot to say. your mind is too small to understand it. There have been meny repetitive threads on this board so that's not a new thing. Look around most of these threads are repeats some with a different twist. maybe you just don't like to read.
     
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    tbui, you are the definition of repetitive

    most, if not all, of your posts are about yao being incompetent

    up yours tbui
     
  11. tbui

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    There goes that thing about not reading again. When did I say he's imcompetent. I said that maybe it's a mental barrier or a lack of desire to lead and become great. Why are most people not CEO's and Executives or entreprenuers? It takes a special person to step up and take responsibility. Inthe sports world there are wolves and sheep. Big wolves like MJ and Shaq and wild dogs like Yao and Big Z and Ricky davis and the list goes on and on. So Yao will never be great because of his personality type. He is what he is. And Rich Argh is what Rich Argh is--a little bafoon.
     
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    Who will be the next great center? "Great" does not mean "the greatest", is it clear enough? Use your brain before you post.
     
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    Your view and a quarter will buy me a bag of chips
     
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    How many posts have you read about a new PF, or starting Spoon, or firing Van Gundy, or riding Macrady's di*k? Come on, I posed an idea I have never seen before on this board. The simple concept that Yao does not have the characteristics of a franchise player relative to the greats and this may be due to a personality difficiency. He just doesn't have the mind of leader. Innately, something within him just makes him not willing to lead and be a consistent workhorse. He cannot and will not do it. So I believe we should trade him while he's high in value and before the NBA understands this.
     
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    Hot balla, you just proved that you're stupid. Great doesn't mean good or very good it means the best. The best players in the NBA right now not in this order are Kobe, Dirk, Duncan, KG. It doesn't mean Nash or Rashard Lewis or Michael redd ot your beloved Yao. use your brain little man before you speak.
     
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    If we stuck with your theory, then people would have written off both Kevin Garnett, and Dirk Nowitzki then...

    Their first three seasons were nothing special either...

    Plus, this offense sucks, the coach is too stubborn, the power forwards are awful, and we don't have a serviceable point guard.

    I don't think we will see what Yao is really capable of until he plays with a good point guard.
     
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    I said your view means nothing. I didn't say it was wrong or right, just that it means nothing. Next time I'll save my American slang sarcasm for people who understand the language.
     
  19. tbui

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    Hot Balla I wrote your name but it was directed to Tibbs. But nevertheless, you are nothing but a little man and will be nothing more nothing less. I hope your mom's proud that her child is nothing in this world. Nothing.
     
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    Your inability to type in the English name you were thinking just proves you need to go back to English class before you post again. Also, stop trying to insult me, you sound like a Terrorist. I can't believe you don't use the words American, Dog, or infidel in your reply to me.
     
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