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Yao= reduced offensive role?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FishBulb913, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. FishBulb913

    FishBulb913 Member

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    I was debating with my friend today and he is normally a very smart basketball guy but today he was trying to tell me that Yao will not average more than 15 ppg in Adelman's offense because 1. it doesn't suit him, and 2. he is too out of shape to keep up

    now i know yao isn't amare stoudemire athletically but i think yao should be a very productive offensive player in this offense.

    does anyone side with my friend?

    i realize this isn't a credible source, but was still a fun debate!!!
     
  2. abc2007

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    If this was true, Yao would demand a trade!
     
  3. doublehh03

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    yao wants to win. if he can avg 15, but get 13 boards, 6 assists, and play dominant D (though no way yao will avg that low, i have him as 26ppg, 10 rpg), he'll do that. he's a winner.

    but it'll piss off YOF though if that happens even if we win a ring.
     
  4. abcdef

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    I agree that Adelman's Sacramento offense doesn't suit him, but Yao is typically in great shape since he works so hard, and I'm sure that Adelman has changed his offense to let Yao operate in the low post more than his other big men.

    If he hasn't... well then Yao won't be as productive. 15ppg is a bit extreme, but if Yao stays in the high post too much I could see him dropping back down to 18-19 ppg. Honestly I was against the Adelman hire from the beginning and this was exactly what I didn't want to see.
     
  5. durvasa

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    Based on the preseason, Yao will be just fine. He's averaging close to 25/10 per 40 minutes in the preseason, and that's with an abnormally bad game thrown in. With all the new offensive options, and him being used more as a passer, he may not average the same amount of points. But he should still be getting around 23-26 ppg, I think.
     
  6. OGKashMoney

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    I'm pretty sure Yao won't care as long as we win, but Coach A isn't that stupid. When you have a guy that can score like Yao does and can't be defended, then you feed him the ball. Either way, as long as we win a ring, everything will be okay.
     
  7. metalshred

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    lmao i dont' think so, but u never know. i agree with ihm Yao doesn't look like he's in the same shape as he was at the start of last season though. But i really would like to see Yao playing like that again, it felt just too right when i watched him play.
     
  8. Murph23

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    Your friend doesn't appear to be smart enough. Yao will do just fine, and he won't tire himself out having to defend the pick n roll like JVG required him to do. If Yao's stats do not improve from last year or just below it is only because the team has more weapons, but that means his assist #s will go up quite a bit.
     
  9. OrangeRowdy95

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    I don't think he'll be utilized to his dominance.

    My predictions: 21 ppg, 8 rebounds, 3 assists.

    Fewer points, fewer rebounds, a little more assists. I also expect Tracy's stats to take a dip.

    TMac: 23 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists.
     
  10. abc2007

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    It is impossible! If Yao was in the high post most time, he cannot get 13 rds. In addition, I cannot see he can get 6 assists suddenly. More important, don't overestimate Rockets' offense. If Yao got 15 pts, Rockets would be not going to win many games.

     
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    your friend is an idiot and doesn't understand adelman's offense
     
  12. abcdef

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    We are not winning anything with Yao scoring 15 ppg. This was attempted before in 2004-2005 with a better McGrady and we flamed out in the first round.

    You'd make the same argument with McGrady scoring 15 ppg... in fact you've made it on MANY occasions.
     
  13. real_egal

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    Can you not read or can you not read? Or you just simply want to attack? What does YOF have anything to do with this?

    The person said 1. it doesn't suit him, and 2. he is too out of shape to keep up. If the system doesn't suit Yao, and Yao can't keep up, how could he get 13 boards, 6 assists, and play dominant D? How do you know YOF would not like that if he can be that dominant at defense, or you just look for some controvacy? Besides, whatever system it might be, do you seriously believe that Yao is capable to grab 13 boards a game?

    So, if Yao averages 15 points and 7 boards and 2 assists, what's wrong for him to ask for a trade. Heck, everyone here will want to get rid of him. Who wants a 15/7 max player? Does that mean everyone is YOF? Geez, the season hasn't started, you already warmed up?
     
  14. fuzzy88

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    I think Adelman will realize that Yao is best on the low post. You can see the last two games, at the high post, Yao can't do to much other than pass, or shoot low %, or dribble and lose the ball. At the low post, Yao will pretty much score, by getting the Field Goals or Free Throws.

    I do agree that Yao should play a bit from the high post just to mix things up, making him less predictable (plus he can't stay in there more than 3 seconds anyway). But Yao is only a decent passer, and with a defensive guy on his back, he will have difficulty passing without getting intercepted.
     
  15. Htown57

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    If anyone watched alot of the kings play under addleman, they went to chris weber in the low post a lot. Adleman has said he knows yao is most dominant in the low post. The only thing that changes is that yao gets to hang out in the high post instead of bang down low on plays not called for him, and wont have to bang throughout the shot clock, instead making "flashes" into the paint.
     
  16. rn_xw

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    I agree with you.
    Yao will probably average a bit less, but he's still the best scoring centre in the league. He needs to take shots where he's comfortable in the key, and he'll make at least 50% of them, together with a ton of fts. RA knows that Yao Ming is more effective when he's having the ball, backing up defenders. He's probably gonna go to Yao down low if he needs somebody to step up and score.

    Tmac would be on the run like he was in Orlando. He'll get some open shots, not as much as some people here suggests, but he'd definitely open up more shots for other guys. Just do a lot of offball pick and roll, and someone'll open up. Lots of cuttings, and the guards will be getting layups.
     
  17. rfila

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    The last line wasn't necessary. In fact, It's getting more and more annoying as you see the word "YOF" being thrown around. It's old. And it does no good to the board or any discussion.
     
  18. abcdef

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    It's also funny coming from him, given that he is a TOF.
     
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    ... time to reevaluate your friend's basketball "smart"ness. :eek:

    yes, its always fun to talk Rockets!
     

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