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Yao never get his chance

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by haoafu, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. haoafu

    haoafu Contributing Member

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    Yao never get his chance to take volume shots and develop the offensive skillset. Let's face it, yao is the third option in Francis/Mobley period and the second option after TMac joins. Also he is such an unselfish player that he will blame himself if he take any low percentage or free style shots.

    As a fan, I have noticed that consistently taking volume shots is what developes a star player into a superstar. Tmac won't be Tmac is he stays alongside Vince Carter in Toronto and if GHill is healty in Orlando. Kobe won't get 82 pts if Shaq stays.

    In yao shaq I, yao blocked shaq's first 5 shot attempts, but shaq keeps attacking yao and overwhelmed him rest of the way. In one of the second year Yao Shaq combats, yao shots only 1of 10 in the first half and get rejected twice by shaq, but teammates keeps feeding him and he goes 11 of 13 in the second half and beats lakers single handedly.

    Yao shold be and have to be the first option to 'develope' his ability in clutch time. We have seen yao being clutch in some games and not so clutch in other games. But yao really haven't got that much chance to be the first option in clutch times.

    As the first real thing from Asia, yao is differet from American players. International players usually takes 5,6 years to adjust to NBA(Who are Dirk/Nash in their first 5,6 years?Far from MVP candidate).Yao is still a project in progress, and he has the potential to takeover the league if we really build around him and develope him.
     
  2. rofflesaurus

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    Yao had his chance last year. He was the #1 option and was supposedly unstoppable. He had a subpar performance against Utah and couldnt carry us past the first round. Face it, Yao's not getting any better. He's at his prime right now. He won't miraculously get faster or become more powerful. All he can improve on is his shooting and turnovers. Why a big man is shooting fadeaway jumpers boggles my mind though.
     
  3. hermbob

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    Not if he keeps playing at the high post so much that it throws off his rhythm in the low post...EVERY game.
     
  4. robbie380

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    yao has had his chance the whole time t-mac has been out. i love yao but he simply can't handle being the only offensive weapon. when t-mac is hurt yao starts to settle for jumpers outside of his range too often and he just is not that good of a perimeter shooter. he is shooting 41.8% FG% over 8 games since t-mac got hurt in dallas. if he was able to maintain a FG% close to career averages then we might be looking at 3 more wins in that stretch (denver, boston, orlando).
     
  5. ivanyy2000

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    Yao's worst enemy is himself.

    He works hard and he tries hard to win games. But I just hate his passive approach to the games. He settles on a lot of things.

    Yes, he is tall, slow and he can't jump. But I believe he can still dominate on most nights, we have seen him done it before. He just don't have that swagger and the altitude that wants to destroy his opponents every night.

    Yeah, KG is a bad bad matchup for you on defense. But this guy is 100lbs lighter than you as well, why can't you just pay him back and f**k on offense?
     
  6. RocketsMac

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    How in god's name is he gonna make volume shots if he can't even get a pass?? it's not his teammates problem, they've been trying their best..

    it's not like Kenny Smith, Mario Ellie, and the rest of the champion Rockets were the kings of entry passes, they just threw it high for Hakeem and he took care of the rest, that's a volume scorer, KG is a volume scorer, you throw it up to him and he goes and gets it.. for Yao, you need to throw it at a 12 degree angle above the Horizon with a very specific apogee point of about 3.2 cm above the horizontal pass of the trajectory of the ball.. any differences from this medium will result in him getting stripped, the pass stolen, or him running over the defensive player and getting called for the offensive foul.. :D

    please leave the guy alone and let him be.. Stop suggesting that he "becomes more selfish" or any other B.S like that.. we've seen what happens when he doesn't pass the ball: he jacks up horrible shots and goes 2-11 to start the game..
     
  7. Angkor Wat

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    Yao has had plently of chances. Even in his rookie year. Sure he was behind Francis/Cat but in no way shape for form was he getting touches like a #1 guy, he was not ready. But saying Yao neve got a chance is like saying T-Mac never got a chance to get the out the first round. They built this team to accompany Yao. T-Mac came here because of Yao. The ball is now in Yao's hands. If wants to take 25+ shots a game, he needs to start demanding the ball more and pass less.

    All that crap about Yao never got a chance to develop an offensive skillset is bull. He has everything a center would want. Soft touch, strong lower body, height, footwork, soft hands and good court vision. What else do you expect Yao to do? At this point, the only thing Yao can get better at is his game mentality. Honestly, that could go a long way and make him an even better player.
     
  8. ilomse

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    too bad yao can't outpower shaq

    too bad yao dosen't score 81pt a game

    too bad yao can't score 13pt is 35 second

    too bad yao dosen't fly....
     
  9. ibm

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    yao never got any chances? false.

    yao's had enough chances? false also.



    i think the op meant yao needs to take more shots in the game regardless, which i agree. when yao shot less, we lost games more often than not.

    it takes both a good entry pass by his teammates and a good deep positioning by yao himself. 2 sides, not just 1. and the defensive rules are quite different today than in the past.

    yao almost never "jacks up horrible shots". and he's a willing passer almost to a fault sometimes. the shots he missed last night early on were the ones you normally expect him to make.
     
  10. KevinG

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    For Yao's offense on that, He got double or trible teamed.

    Not surprised shooting percentage dropped
     
  11. ibm

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    how about mcgrady's team won a pitiful 17 games w/o yao and 50+ with yao twice?

    i know i am being unreasonable, but i was just applying some of your logic. ;)
     
  12. morpheus133

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    Yao's lack of mobility and atheleticism is the biggest problem with him being the primary option for the team. A big man like Shaq who gets fronted can take a lob pass for a dunk, or out jump and out muscle the defenders and snag the ball on the lob pass. Yao just can't do those things, and that makes it much easier to deny him the ball. It isn't that the Rockets don't want to get Yao more touches, but more so that Yao can't seem to consistently get open to get those touches. The games he does, he tends to dominate, but if teams game plan to deny him like Golden State, then he becomes average at best. Our sub par outside shooting this year only exaggerates that problem as defenders are able to help inside even more.
     
  13. ibm

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    sorry, meant to post it in another thread and did. disregard. my bad.
     
  14. WNBA

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    1. Yao is just not a good jump shooter.
    2. Yao tends to take jumpers when he is tired or the game is on the line.
    3. Yao will be a project forever because he thought his jumpers will fall....


    save the excuses.
     
  15. Deckard

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    The big fella's been missing automatic shots for him far too often. Maybe he's "trying too hard," or perhaps the increased minutes are catching up in that aspect of his game. Could be the pressure of thinking he has to carry the team, or it could be, and probably is, a combination of all that, and more. The fact remains that his low (for Yao) shooting % is a bit of a mystery, as well as contributing to some loses. That's one thing McGrady does... relieve a lot of the attention Yao gets from the opposing defense and a lot of the pressure of being "the guy."

    I hope Yao moves past whatever is bothering him. He should be scoring a lot more than he is. The other parts of his game, except for continuing to put the ball where the other team can slap it away when he's around the basket, something that drives me nuts, instead of keeping it high and slamming the damn thing, is at a high level. Love the increased stamina.
     
  16. KevinG

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    How about that Yao can't get touches, that's because opponents don't even care about Hayes and other role players and double Yao.

    When shaq is doubled, he would struggle as well, true?

    I am not a YOF, but come on, be fair to our big guys
     
  17. KevinG

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    Lmao, Yao is not a good jump shooter. Why He wants to jump shoot anyway as a center. Imagine Shaq shoots like T-Jump Shooter :D
     
  18. ibm

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    i thought last night it was kg the great took a few jumpers (not just "tends to", he actually did) when the game was on the line?
     
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    This is ridiculous. The Rockets organization has given Yao every chance to succeed. :rolleyes:
     
  20. caneks

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    wow, this is one that I never heard before. If we were talking about developing a player with 5 years NBA experience, this player has been overrated.
     

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