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Yao Ming actually gets critisized by a lot more by the Chinese fans

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wizkid83, Jan 22, 2003.

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  1. wizkid83

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    I used to think all the Yao Ming can do no wrong fans must be Chinese but after visiting the recent messege board on Sina.com, I realized that was not the case. Though there are still some "Rudy sucks" and "Fransis ball hogs" like threads, there were actually quite a good bit amount of criticism for Yao Ming. Some including Cato should start, Yao shouldn't be an All Star and even fairly nasty one that said Yao was a mirage. If my Chinese brethren can be unbiased and call Yao out a little (constructive critisicm ofcourse), why not the US Rockets fans?
     
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    Well I'm not going to start bashing a rookie who has never played more than 30 or so games a year. I have no problems wit criticism but I am not going to blame.

    I am sure there were very few people bashing Francis his rookie year. Whatever faults he had, he was a rookie and had time to correct them.
     
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    Did they actually watch a lot of Rockets games and other NBA games? Did they have any experience live in a complete foreign land, in which everything is new? For just one thing, Language, even with a interpretor, do you realy think Yao can understand all Rudy and his teammates talks? Yao has tried his best to try to fit into the guard-oritened Rockets. But now with Yao being second best center, Yao's teammates even coach are trying to fit with Yao, but still couldn't or not willing to pass the damn ball. At this moment, Yao has exceeded the expectation of everyone. Do they expect Rockets get championship this year? That's a team game, not just Yao. why don't you blame other selfish or unable players even coach in the team? I don't say Yao don't have any responsibility for the loss. But he's a rookie, he just come to US for 3 months. Please show more love to Yao.
     
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    I have critisized Yao, but I aint sayin he sucks. I think he will be a special player in this league when he can get some more strength and get pumped up to believe it is his responsibility to dominate his opponent..
    but I am willing to give him time to do that...I may scream "Dont Be a Wuss Yao!"...but deep down, I really think he can be a special player for us...
    thats why i get so upset about the timidness he is showing in his play these days..

    but I still have faith....Go Rox!
     
  5. wizkid83

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    Mr. Clutch, I definitely don't agree with that "Yao is a mirage" or "he shouldn't be an All Star" kind of bashing, but I think we should still criticize Yao for his faults. Francis was playing amazing basketball during his rookie campaign and established himself being the man from day one. Yao has amazing breakouts but as of right now, he seems a little out of gas and arguments for Cato to start shouldn't be ignored.

    Yin, one, I'm not bashing Yao or tryig to bash Yao. What I'm saying is don't just bash every other player on the team when we loose. Look at how you responded to this thread, calling everyone else selfish and have unwillingness to pass Yao the ball. Why focus the blame on everyone else and nothing on Yao, don't be biased that's all I'm saying. He's my hero too :), but come on, even heros have faults that should be pointed out.

    Rockets2k, I wasn't bashing Yao but merely pointing something out. I agree Yao will become a better player once he gets an attitude. I have faith too.
     
  6. meh

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    Can you give me the link to that board, Wizkid? Thanks.
     
  7. Uprising

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    hey.. i am not going to bash the rookie. Yao..is huge for this team.

    He just needs to hustle more...i see better hussle from the Cato. Yao is a young rookie....he should play like it. (I mean athletic wise, not skillz...)
     
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    SINA board is cr@p. Not so much decent game comments or analysis you see on Clutch BBS, but more so trash talk, saliva dripping, insulting, swearing... It's almost as bad as ESPN board.

    http://sports.sina.com.cn

     
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    that bad?.....no.....really?...
    wow...new low.
     
  10. topfive

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    Good thing we don't have any of that here!

    *ahem*
     
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    uuhh... wrong. Francis has pretty much been ripped from day one here at CCnet (just ask DaDakota) ;) . There was never this Francis can do no wrong attitude that prevails here when speaking of Yao. Though people don't want to admit it, there is a double standard.

    Using the excuse that Yao is just a rookie and his getting acclimated to a new Country\Language is hollow as well. Yao is a proffesional basketball player and has been for some time (irregardless of where he played it was still pro ball), yet he makes mistakes that highschool and junior high players have been coached not to make.

    Don't get me wrong. I love Yao and think that he is going to be a great player, but this board needs a little unbaised objectivity in regards to all of the players if there is going to be critisicsm, since they ALL make mistakes.

    p.s. Kudos Wizkid for calling this out...
     
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    I just read a few pages on the Dallas postgame comments there.

    You're right about the lack of game analysis and a higher level of hero worshiping. However, that's understandable. Overall, not nearly as bad as the espn boards, imo.

    Does anyone know how they could translate 'the Mavericks' into 'Little Cow'?????
     
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    Most Chinese fans are quite conservative, they have good reasons to be so after seeing how Wang Zhizhi fared at Mavs last year. The other 7’ Barteer is practically frozen at Spurs; even though he was playing along side Yao & on occasions perform better.

    Not all posts on ESPN boards are junk. There are few sensible posters on ESPN Rockets board, however, it’s messy due to the lack of moderation

    Lately there is a floating “FEAR.DOT.COM” advertisement on ESPN boards. It’s downright nauseating. They can’t even set the cookie, even after I clicked through the pages, the ad still pops up next time I visit.

    After every Rockets’ game, wankers& whiners come out in droves to flood the board.

    So I say: stay with Clutch BBS if you want to be sane. (Not Sane)


     
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    LOL :)
     
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    IMHO, the "Little Cow" is the forecast of upcoming Jan 29 game!

    Mavs will be turned into little cows !

    Mark my words !

    REVENGE on JAN 29 & Feb 20 !
     
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    Starting Cato now in place of Yao right now would be an acutely naive thing to do. Starting a game has no direct relation to how many minutes you play in a game. So if Yao is battling fartigue the best and only way I think Rudy or any sane coach will do is to continue to start him but LIMITING his minutes (sort of like giving him "backup" minute in disguise). Cato can still come of the bench and play in excess of 28 minutes.
     
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    well.. maverick does being literally an "unbranded young cow"...

    so "little cow" however funny that may sound is actually the proper translation...
     
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    Um Yeah, that worked great for MJ :rolleyes: . Seriously, Yao is an amazing young talent but man, do we really want him to be the next Kerry Wood? (I know different sports but I think its a valid comparison)
     
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    "Little Cow" LOL

    They mean baby cow. "MAVERICK-----An unbranded range animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother, traditionally considered the property of the first person who brands it." That's what they have in the dictionary. That's why they translate it to "baby cow". It's not "little cow".
     
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    YAO MING CAN DO NO WRONG!!!! HE IS A VERY SMART BASKETBALL PLAYER!!!

    that's the way things are in a lot of posters here...... but guess what, I don't see Ming make that many good basketball decision as some here might say......

    once again, I don't get to watch Houston's game often.... all I do is follows Codell's pbp (props to Codell)..... I notice that quite often when they pass it down to Ming, it will end up being a pass (not an assist pass), or he will try to do some fadeaway or jumpshot and miss it..... it have been like this for the pass few weeks yet lots of ppl here are still saying, give him more touches and let him get into the game and he will start making smart decision..... hell, they're suppose to be PROFESSIONAL basketballer, do they really need that much time to get into the game? he is averaging roughly 25-30 minutes don't he? that is considered quite a lot of playing time to me.....

    like a few others here, sometimes I just feel bad for players like Francis, Mobley who tried hard to win the game but to get bash when they lose for not passing to Ming.... when Ming took like 15 shots in that game...... 15 shots still not considered as lots of touches? Francis only took 5 more shots than him......

    again.... just my thoughts.....
     

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