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Yao is not the problem, SF is not the problem. Forwards are the problem

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lanqiu1, Dec 23, 2003.

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  1. lanqiu1

    lanqiu1 Contributing Member

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    All the Yao-bashing, SF-bashing stuff are just total nonsense.

    Because every opposing team shares the same defensive strategy against this Houston team. "Trap SF and collapse on Yao". And Houston can't find a way to deal with it.

    WHY?

    Besides our smallest but quickest all star guard and slowest but tallest all star center, there is not much in between.

    The forward problem is the biggest problem this team is facing. Give the management some credit, they did try to fix it. Then spent four first round picks on it recently (3 for EG, 1 for Nachbar). But I also blame the management for getting near nothing for all these picks.

    There are so many talks on this board about trading SF and Yao. That is easy Yao and SF can always bring back something. However, nobody talks about trading our forwards, despite their poor production.

    WHY?

    Because we all know most of the teams in the league won't even pick up our starter forwards from the waiver (with their salaries).

    Sadly, with our roster depth, cap room and draft situation, the remedy is not very close.

    If they traded EG last spring..................
     
    #1 lanqiu1, Dec 23, 2003
  2. Elie#17

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    nice post..and a good point to notice our more deficient weaknesses.
     
    #2 Elie#17, Dec 23, 2003
  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Clearly the lack of production (especially offensively) from our starting forwards is a big problem on this team. Jackson gets open 3pt looks and can't knock them down. Cato gets 15ft open looks and cant knock them down. This is killing our offense.

    This team needs to move Mobley to get a quality SF or PF that can score points. Move Pike or JJ to 2 guard or move SF to 2 guard and pick up a veteran PG.

    I love Mobley's play this year. He has been solid. And he is also our most tradable asset to get a quality forward. This has to be addressd.

    Not having Eddie Griffin, Nachbar and even Terence Morris pan out has REALLY set this team back. These draft picks have killed us!
     
    #3 Deuce, Dec 23, 2003
  4. danjojo

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    this is quite true but i'll keep bashing Yao as long as i read stupid anti-Francis threads everyday...he is equally deserving
     
    #4 danjojo, Dec 23, 2003
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Thanks for contributing to the problem. :(
     
    #5 Deuce, Dec 23, 2003
  6. room4rentsf

    room4rentsf Member

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    very intelligent thread..

    J

    I would hate to part with Mobley too.. but he is the only one that can fetch a decent player.
     
    #6 room4rentsf, Dec 23, 2003
  7. reptilexcq

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    Yao is NOT the problem. Francis is NOT the problem. Ok....it's ME....i'll admit iam the problem.
     
    #7 reptilexcq, Dec 23, 2003
  8. RedHonda76

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    Can anyone say Kurt Thomas?
     
    #8 RedHonda76, Dec 23, 2003
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Actually, Francis can probably fetch us a better player, while the Rockets get to dump his max contract and lose less production as his play has been inferior to Mobley's.
     
    #9 StupidMoniker, Dec 23, 2003
  10. PumperX

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    Another dumpest post I ever read. You will punish Yao because people bash Steve? Then I can bash you because my boss bash me. Dump.
     
    #10 PumperX, Dec 23, 2003
  11. sup123

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    are fowards are a problem on this team, but my questions is why is a trade taking place? Stupid a@@ CD!!!
     
    #11 sup123, Dec 23, 2003
  12. sup123

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    i mean trade not taking place
     
    #12 sup123, Dec 23, 2003
  13. dback816

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    Why Yao not Mobley or Cato or MoT? Why not Pike for not attempting 10 3pters every game and makes 7 of them?

    You must be strong supporter for "All People Are Created Equal".
     
    #13 dback816, Dec 23, 2003
  14. HeyDude

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    If u dont think Yao is the problem, why dont u argue it in the 'yao is the real problem' thread? why make a new thread of the subject? Go argue in there, there are some good discussions in that thread.....
     
    #14 HeyDude, Dec 23, 2003
  15. Relativist

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    I KNEW it. I KNEW it! You're to blame! I hope you feel sorry for all the misery you've caused. Go make yourself useful and prevent Karl Malone from playing in the Lakers game this Thursday.
     
    #15 Relativist, Dec 23, 2003
  16. danjojo

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    Well, because the people who bash Steve are the ones who think Yao is a god, when really he hasn't done much in a year and a half. And because i actually mean what i say when i bash Yao. And because i don't see a reason to bash Mobley when he's been our best player this year. The other guys are just there for the ride.
     
    #16 danjojo, Dec 23, 2003
  17. danjojo

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    Get over it... Yao deserves it. BTW, it's not punishment because i'm sure he doesn't read this bbs and even if he did, i'm sure he could care less what people here think...

    dump on...
     
    #17 danjojo, Dec 23, 2003
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    Oh please... people who bash Steve are the ones who think Yao is a god! My goodness! :rolleyes:
     
    #18 ttstk123, Dec 23, 2003
  19. farhan007

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    did you read the last sentence. Yes, yao is equally deserving since he now is our "franchise player:rolleyes:"
     
    #19 farhan007, Dec 24, 2003
  20. Rocket River

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    Yea . . . I stated this in the WORSE STARTING FORWARDS IN THE WEST
    thread

    I think that is a major point of this team

    If the people yu pass to consistantly cannot make the shot
    or are not even a THREAT to make the shot

    yOU will look stupid and your assist will suck

    How many assist did Stockton get off Malone's Jumper
    Replace Malone with Cato . . .and how many assists does Stockton get?
    Replace Hornecek with JJ or to an extent Mobley
    Bryon had a 'decent' shot

    ROCKETS SIMPLY NEED TO HIT THE OPEN SHOT

    Rocket River
     
    #20 Rocket River, Dec 24, 2003
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