Yao bias?

I know. Only if he was more aggressive........he would start rebounding more and blocking more and scoring more....................he will dominate. You're right though. He loses the ball way too much.

Of course we are biased!!!!!!!!! It's YAO MING man.

 

Not his fault. He isn't getting NO calls. Can't play smart when you're getting hacked and no whistles are being blown.

 

God....I know. That Knicks game................JESUS. We were screwed by the refs......AND JESUS. That Wizards game............DANG IT. That was not goaltending. And that SPURS game........man. Well they're just too good. We tried really hard though.

 

One reason for his turn over was because he was fouled.
It happened in NY game and in this game too, I think.

 

First Yao always admits his mistake when rox lost the game due to his fault. So there is no need to mention that again and again.

Second, in general, Yao's turnovers are not very high. Most of his turnovers at the end of the game are due to no calls by the refs. Its not a BBIQ issue. It's about becoming much stronger so that he could hold the ball tighter even when people nail or hit his arm hard.

Third, he does learn from his mistakes. Rox lost their game in DC because of no TO call at the clutch time from Yao and Francis. And today in the end of 4th quarter, Yao made several TO calls. Although it's not very useful for today's game, but you can tell he is learning.

 

phew, i was worried there wasn't gonna be an excuse for yao. true, yao gets fouled all day and night with no calls, but some of his turnovers are not b/c of this.

actually the one thing i don't like about ming the most is his aggressiveness. and you know he has it, b/c he seems to pull it out in the late third or the 4th of every game. if he would bring that aggressiveness for the whole game, he would already be so much better. and we might win some more. yao is just as responsible as anyone else for out lackluster starts b/c he doesn't bring it until later on also.

 

I think Yao is still adjusting to the level of competition and athleticism in the NBA. He's too spoiled by his height and sometimes looks surprised when he gets outhustled for a rebound or gets blocked. This is of course, why everyone says he has so much upside... Even if he never gains an inch on his vertical or add another pound of muscle, just getting gradually acclimated to the intensity of the NBA will make him a dominant player.

 

I say we Trade Yao for Brand and Miller.

 

I think there is one. It's fixed that the Rockets won't make the playoffs. The refs are just following orders.

 

Why most people don't blame yao for his mistakes? simply because he's a rookie and maybe becuase of Yao being a rookie that's why he gets no calls even 4-5 hands molesting him down low.

 

What's odd is that at the beginning of the season Yao was getting calls - like a veteran. I guess the refs are now making up for that mistake.

 

Juugie watch what you are saying

I tried to say the exact same thing a few days ago and got blasted by the Yao Forum.

 

I know the answer to this one.

It is simply because he is a ROOKIE. Hakeem enjoyed it. Mobley did as well. So did Francis and Eddy Griffin. It is natural and almost unquetionably acceptable by majority. He will not get the same slack in subsequent years - that is natural too.

But it is also a fact that Yao is presently the most prized and most like Rocket. This I believe also plays a part in it.

 

consistently having the ball taken away from him in the crucial moments? the only time i remember that happening was the knick game at msg. yao is not perfect. but i don't remember him consistently losing the ball. he has turnovers cause of double teams occasionally, but he doesn't lead the league or his team in turnovers. and most of the time, in the crucial moments of the game, they just don't give yao the ball. mo taylor or cuttino mobley have most recently gotten the ball in crucial moments. the only games i remember yao really getting the ball in crucial moments was the laker game and the knick game. yao had 2 turnovers in today's game; i don't see the relevance of this topic. yao didn't explode for like 30 against tim duncan or david robinson but neither did they. neither of them reached 20 points. duncan only had 9 rebounds. yao only had 9 rebounds and he played fewer minutes. plus i did see a time when yao was wide open and they didn't even pass to him. i didn't watch the whole game, but i watched it toward the end and there were no crucial turnovers that i remember. if you saw something i didn't see, let me know when it happened. duncan had 3 turnovers. yao had 2 turnovers. i think some people here on this message board need to stop looking for some weakness to blast yao on. he's not perfect. if that's your point, you're only stating the obvious.

he needs to improve his rebounding. that's obvious. but let's remember he didn't begin this season as a starter. so his averages are lower because of lack of minutes. but he obviously could use improvement in his rebounding. and his defense needs work as he sometimes lets people just score on him without even challenging the shots. whether yao will dominate, nobody really knows. but yao is a consistent offensive option. his defense is his major flaw right now as he tends to disappear toward the end of the game as he gets fatigued, but it doesn't happen in every game.

as for taking too long to make his move in the post, it looks like he's trying to draw the defense into him so he can kick it out to the open shooter, but that doesn't work well with this team since there are no really consistent outside shooters. and since yao isn't used to playing with a 24 second clock, he's making adjustments and will have to take the shot when he's close to the basket right away instead of being too patient and moving the ball back out.

steve is a great player and he does get a horrible rap here by some idiots. but there are also some overzealous steve francis fans who take some basic criticisms way too personally. and occasionally i see some fans making sarcastic remarks of how francis and mobley are to blame for everything and some idiotic francis or mobley fan actually believes the person was being serious. same thing goes for the overzealous yao ming fan, i don't know what the hell they're thinking. some of them are really r****ded. basically people need to stop looking for a scapegoat to put the blame on. criticizing a player for certain decisions happens all the time on this message board. it happens to yao, and it happens to steve francis, but let's not make either one a scapegoat for the team's failure.

as for why francis and mobley get criticism for being stupid, it's because they do say really stupid things. for example, how they said they respect the mavericks like they respect the bulls and if you watched the espn broadcast of that game, they mentioned that the mavs read that article in the chronicle and were motivated to beat the rockets. or how francis said the mavs couldn't beat them man to man and had to resort to a zone to beat the rockets, and then motivated the mavs to come out and beat the crap out of the rockets man to man without a zone. they get criticized for being stupid, because they are. i'm not saying they're the scapegoats for this team's failure but they do say some really obvious stupid things. if yao had said something like that, people would call him a dumba$$ as well.

 

Actually.....Yao has lost the ball at least once per game recently.

 

Play more than 30 minutes and without 1 turnover is not easy for any player. Francis had 4 turnovers today.

 

Is this thread a joke? Yao is the least of the Rockets's problems! In fact, he is the only bright spot I can see in the Rockets. Rockets got much prblems to deal with than Yao's TOs:
1. Rudy T's lack of offensive strategy.
2. Francis's lack of PG ability and play making.
3. Griffin's continuing lack of progress, poor shooting and no inside move.
4. Rest of Rockets cannot shoot a open jumper to save their lifes, except Glenn Rice occasionally.

It's utterly ironic and disgusting that Yao, our only inside presence, is also Rockets best passer, best open shot maker, best court vision, and best clutch player?

 

Also, he is only a ROOKIE!!!

We are a young team. But at least other players have played a few years in the league. How come they have no improvement, no progress, and not even as good as a rookie?

 

I think his change in 3rd and 4th quarters are more like frustration than agressiveness. Frustration with his teamates not capable of making an open shots, frustration with trailing behind. He only incline to take over when Rox is behind. That has to change.