I have never heard A-Rod for Manny and Nomar. I have heard A-Rod for Manny straight up. If Nomar is apart of the deal too then it is a coup for the Rangers. Now way that deal goes through. I figured it Manny to Rangers and Nomar to the Astros for Kent. I would rather it be Biggio and a prospect but I wouldnt hold my breath. Honestly I think that Nomar would go somewhere else for a decent player and some prospects.
I meant that it would effectively be Nomar and Manny for A-Rod because I doubt they get much more than prospects for Nomar.
Are you kidding me? They lose a young strong left hander when they play in stadium with a short right field. Not to mention he won three of their biggest playoff games last season. I mean he has more post season wins than the Astros do as a franchise. They pickup a old brokedown right hander in the twighlight of his career. When has Brown done anything that you can remember. He's started less than 30 games in the last two years.
I agree. Yes, he has been hurt over the past few seasons but last year he made major strides in regaining his health. If KB can stay healthy, this will be a good trade for the Yankees.
Buck - I agree that the past few years he has been hurt, but if you look at last years stats KB pitched more innings then Pettite and Schilling, had a bettter ERA then both {2.39}went 14-9 on a team that had the worst run support in all of baseball AND MADE 32 starts. In this world of "what have you done for me lately" those numbers speak volumes and if he can stay healthy he will dominate on a team that give him run support. peace
Brown's numbers will suffer a dramatic drop, as he is a sinkerballer and one of the most prolific ground ball pitchers in the majors. The fact that he will now be pitching in front of the worst defensive middle infield in basball, in Jeter & Soriano, will likely add a run or more to his ERA.
Do your homework, the Yankees were not the worst, granted Soriano had 19 errors in 1376 innings for a .969 FPCT and wasnt up to par but to say that Jeter and Soriano are the "worst" middle infield in baseball is not correct
OK, they're one of the 2 or 3 worst double play combos in baseball. Overall, the NY defense ranked 27th in turning balls in play into outs. This is good news for Pettitte, bad news for Brown.
I suggest you do your homework. Jeter has been the worst defensive SS in the majors for the past 5 years. Over this period (which is the farthest back I could find comparator data), Jeter has been dead last among AL SS in Defensive Range Factor every single year. While not a perfect stat, RF still is a far better statistical tool than Fielding %. If you want to use F%, then Jeter has been in the bottom half in that category as well over that period. 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 Soriano is a little better, but not much 2003 2002 2001 Put them together and it's not a stretch to call Jeter & Soriano the worst middle infield in the league.
Edit to add that Soriano had the worst Fielding % in the AL in 2001 & 2002, and finished next to last in 2003.
Cold hard facts to Jeter fans in denial about his mediocrity? Doesn't work man. Jeter is an AVERAGE player, at best. At worst, an overpaid loser who could be the most overrated player in the history of baseball.
I wouldn't go so far as to call him an average player, he's a pretty good offensive shortstop (career OPS = 0.851, not too bad) who is not in the same league as Nomar, A-Rod, or Tejada. But he is absolutely the worst defensive SS in the game, and kills his pitchers because of it. The best thing for him to do would be to move to 2B or 3B.
hammer, I know what your saying I was just ragging on you because in truth the Yankees are bad up the middle although they are not the worst. Look at Tampa Bay based on errors, innnings played and Fielding %. A case could also be made for Det and Cin to be worse although I get your point they were bad, I was just pointing there not the "worst". As a Yankee fan I couldnt let that go unchallenged
Now thats just wrong on so many levels Say what you want but Jeter is nothing but clutch in the post season.
Actually, after looking at some numbers, it wouldn't be a difficult argument to make that Jeter is a better offensive SS than Tejada. Since you brought it up, TB has had a much better defensive middle infield than NY over the past few years than NY. At 2B, Brent Abernathy & Marlon Anderson had virtually identical numbers as Soriano, and the combination of Chris Gomez and Julio Lugo was much much better than Jeter's.
Gosh, here we go again with the clutch. Jeter's career regular season batting average = 0.317 Jeter's career post-season batting average = 0.314 Jeter's career World Series batting average = 0.291 Jeter's career regular season OPS = 0.851 Jeter's career post-season OPS = 0.850 Jeter's career World Series OPS = 0.787 The point of this is that good players play well all the time, not just in the post-season. Jeter is not clutch, in fact his career WS numbers are worse than his regular season stats. He's just a good player.
Hammer, Not to ask more stat work of you, but don't his numbers really climb in the postseason with men on base? I'm not trying to defend him; he's over-rated. But he does seem to do a lot of things that help the Yanks win big games, beyond the stats.
