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[Yahoo] Article on J Jennings and FA's

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jgreen91, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. jgreen91

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    3 years, $24 million ($7m, $8m, $9m) with an option year for $10m and incentives for innings pitched, games started, and ERA.

    i know its higher than $22m, but if he turned that down, then id say $24m would be where he's looking.
     
  4. msn

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    Awesome!
     
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    Jennings and his horrible season earning a 3 year 22 million dollar deal is beyond a joke.

    But, I don't blame Jennings one bit. You can't blame a person for taking more money if it is offered.


    Baseball teams and agents have dug themselves into this mess.


    When a team like the Astros sticks to their guns and doesn't offer a 3rd round pick 1st round money; they get mocked. But, teams pay all of the time and agents know it. They can squeeze these team to no end. Because Agents have their trump cards. They have their teams that will pay no matter what.

    And that's why baseball needs a cap like the NBA. If you go over the cap, you pay dollar for dollar!!! And if the Yankees and Red Sox don't like it, they can make their own league.
     
  6. Nick

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    The luxury tax/revenue sharing has leveled spending by every team not named the Yankees. And even though there is more spending overall... by all teams... more teams make money now, and there is less discrepancy between the high market (non-Yankees)... and mid market teams.

    I have more of a concern with the bad teams not being forced to spend enough... and the owners pocketing all the TV/revenue sharing money and not re-investing it back into the team.
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    he's likely "looking" for $10 mil per. i wouldn't offer him more than $5M and only after he agreed to an extensive MRI.........

    of his balls. nailed it!!

    (actually, in all seriousness: $5M/year and the MRI to make sure he's not hurt. btw, i ****ing hate jason ****ing jennings.)
     
  8. Nick

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    If Marquis can get the sort of contract he got after a crappy year... there's no telling what the market dictates anymore.
     
  9. weslinder

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    If the Astros re-sign Jason Jennings at any price, it's sunk cost analysis at its worst.
     
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    And it was overpaying when I believed he was a #2 or at worse a #3 pitcher.

    What a ****ing terrible trade.
     
  11. Jared Novak

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    Offer Jennings 3 years, $15 million, if he refuses... let him walk.
     
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    He's walking
     
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    Agreed. The sad thing about the MRI is that if it shows something wrong, that's not good. And if it shows nothing, why is he so terrible?

    I wouldn't pay anything close to $8MM for a 5.00 ERA pitcher. Sadly, we had that in Hirsh for peanuts... The fact that's he complaining about the ballpark is disappointing, given that none of our other pitchers have had real problems with the park the last several years.
     
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    MRI means nothing, we shouldnt have made the trade in the first place but thats aside from the point. he may not have a spot in the rotation in the next two/three weeks because of the upcomming star troy patton and the return of brandon backe...
    Nice to leave you Jason Jennings
     
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    Huh!?! JJ is a bum. Before injury: 1-0 2.25 ERA after injury: 1-7 over 8-10 ERA. What are we thinking if we keep him at all? In fact, here's the question of the day: Why is Jennings still presently in the starting rotation? Send him to long relief so we would only be plagued by his presence once or twice a month. Then let him go so we can get those 2 supposed 1st round picks as compensation that Poopura won't be able to sign.

    The idea is to have pitching that gives you an opportunity to win, to be competitive. Jennings has been the least competitive, and biggest joke as an SP that we have had since Bob Knepper. Again, why is he still in our rotation? There's no one in the minors that can fake a better job than this bum? :mad:
     
  16. DaDakota

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    WTF?

    Don't offer him anything, he is horrible.

    DD
     
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    i wouldn't give him more than 5 to 6 million for 3 years max. he won't take it, but it really doesn't matter.
     
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    that wouldn't solve the competition problem, if you set a floor the yankees and others will just spend more money to get the free agents they want. the only people who will benefit from that are the players
     
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    Totally agree with you. We don't even have a projected #2 or #3 guy in the minors to call up late season. That's why i've thought all year it would be an extremely expensive off-season if we really want to win next year.

    Though obviously Jennings would never hold his preinjury ERA, he could be a guy with an era slightly sub 4.00 or around there, plus eat up alot of innings and spare the bullpen occasionally. He kind of reminds me of Shane Reynolds, a big guy without alot of power who depends on location. A pitcher like that can easily command 10 million/season now for many teams that have a decent offense. So if we could resign him for around 7-8 million a year, i'd do it w/o thinking twice if he passes a physical. The guy can give us a chance to win, what more do you want from a #3 guy? I see him as a solid and dependable #3 pitcher, who can give us a chance to win whenever the offense shows up. Your #1 and #2 pitcher ned to give you a serious edge to win, and we have only 1 named Oswalt. Let the #4 and #5 slots go to guys like Wandy, Backe, Woody, or any other young guys we want to see if they can hack the big leagues.

    We still need a #2 guy, that's where the real money will have to be spent and make everyone else's salary look like a bargain. Plus another power slugger or high average bat with speed should be 10-12 million/year easy. Torri Hunter in CF anyone? Zambrano as the #2 guy if we're willing to go into a bidding war and spend 15 million/year? :) Two similiar moves like that could make us the front runner in the worst division in baseball. It would still be nice to sign an insurance policy for Lidge as well. Someone who could go from a set up guy to closer in a day's notice.
     
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  20. Nick

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    I don't see as big of a problem, competition wise, between the Yankees and the other mid-market teams.

    The Yankees are always going to spend... and since 2000, it hasn't led to championships. Meanwhile, the Diamonbacks, Angels, Marlins, Red Sox, White Sox, and Cardinals have won the World Series since the last Yankees championship... that's a pretty good sample of parity between teams of various payrolls/market size.

    Its the Royals, Pirates, Devil Rays, and to some extent Marlins that are the ones crying about the finances... and how they'll "never" be able to compete (while the Twins, A's, and Brewers have been competitive without having to break the bank). If those perenially horribly mis-managed teams start making better decisions, combined with a little extra investment, the parity in MLB will start to inch closer to that of the NFL.
     

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