WTF- US Military "Prepped" Guantanamo Detainees for Chinese Interrogators

Awesome. Now we can pompously complain about China's callous stance on human rights in greater detail.

 

So let me get this straight... we help the Chinese (I guess we "talked" to them) suppress religious freedom, stifle the rights of a minority, and kill their own people by allowing (or conducting) torture? I wonder if there was a quid pro quo here... in exchange for access to the prisoners, did the Chinese teach us a little about torture techniques? At any rate, this is shocking but not really surprising, considering this administration really wants to be and would be a totalitarian government if they could get away with it.

Notice how, in this story, the Chinese use terms eerily similar to what the Bush Administration uses to try and scare us into giving up American ideals.

I am so proud to be an American today... and to think they are able to do stuff like this on behalf of all of us is icing on the cake.

 

Hold on. We are going nuts because prisoners who are being held as terror suspects are not allowed to have steady sleep, miss a SINGLE meal, and are in cold rooms? It doesn't say the rooms were freezing, just cold.

It doesn't sound pleasant, but it doesn't sound like anything to go crazy about either. This isn't beating them, waterboarding them, shocking them, etc.

I'm not saying I support the actions, but I just don't see it as something to cry human rights violations over either. This is simply making them uncomfortable.

 

"kept awake for long periods" <> not allowed to have steady sleep
"deprived of food" <> miss a SINGLE meal

 

"he was awakened at 15-minute intervals the entire night and into the next day." The detainee also allegedly said he was "exposed to low room temperatures for long periods of time and was deprived of at least one meal."

 

I don't know. I'm not in the CIA or the State Department so I can't say what sort of national interests were served by cooperating with the Chinese in this matter.

 

at least one meal > one meal

he won't be talking right now if he was frozen..

 

He can only remember one meal he missed.

Typical of a person who wants to exaggerate their plot. "I missed at least one meal" which implies you missed more but you aren't actually SAYING you missed more so you can't be called a liar.

Again, I'm not saying what was done here was good, but it doesn't seem overly dastardly either.

 

Maybe because we might want to interrogate their prisoners? I seem to remember a lot of different countries would let us gain access to their terror suspects.

Interrogation techniques aside, we need more cooperation with other countries, not less.

 

are these people caught fighting against the US? if they are terrorist, is not fighting China for independence, then they are pretty much same as other folks there. not saying it's right to "torture" them. but it ain't like they got more treatment either.

 

Working in Afghanistan to earn money? Yeah right, what a lovely destination.

Cooperation between member states of Interpol to combat terrorism is crazy? Or are you simply having problem with Chinese/China?

FYI, Uighur separatist group is a terrorist organization designated by the governments of China, Kazakhstan, Pakistan and the United States, as well as the United Nations.

 

I agree. Just two months ago, an attempt by three Uighur terrorists -- the ringleader is a 19-year old female who was trained outside China -- to blow up an airplane in a domestic flight in northwest China using illegally smuggled gasoline contained in soft drink can was foiled by vigilant flight attendants on board.

 

With all these allegories comparing Iraq to WW2, I wonder if Bush has gone off his rocker to court his own Stalinist Russia.

 

you mean, "none western countries"? i don't like cultural imperialism. in fact, if saudi arabia, lybia, uzbekistan want to keep their own cultural identity, good for them. if THEY want change, they will change on their OWN schedule. just because they are different, doesn't mean they are bad.

 

As long as cultural imperialism is within borders, it is fine?

 

This is much ado about very little. They didn't beat him, didn't shove his head in water, didn't subject him to days of no food, women touching his pee-pee, nude photos, etc. This was basically one day of discomfort.

Police do things like on a more limited scale all the time. Keep people in interrogation rooms for hours and hours, late at night, etc.

 

if it's within borders, why would it be cultural imperialism? it's only the case, if you are forcing your own belief system onto another group of people who doesn't share the same culture.