I thought this was interesting... and maybe those mathematicians more intelligent than I can help me with this... Here's the breakdown of team wins per payroll (meaning the teams who get the most out of the money they are paying in the win total) So here's part of the article that discusses it... but it looks like our GM isn't perfect, but he's definitely at the top of the NBA according to Arturo Galletti Earlier in the article they introduce the calculation with win shares per player by salary (Mikey Harris is on there for the Nets He was a profitable player for them!) When I look at this it seems logical, anyone else read this? Edit: forgot to add the link! http://dberri.wordpress.com/2010/05/23/the-value-proposition-in-the-nba/
I wonder what the rankings would be like if the data started in 2007 rather than 2005 just because Morey didn't become the GM until 2007.
It's ridiculous how the Knicks haven't been able to have any of their players live up to their contracts and how much they are getting paid... At some point, they have to realize that throwing money around at big names, and overpaying doesn't guarantee success.
Also... @ the Rockets payroll value this year... Is Yao accounted for? Rockets should be much higher on the list if they excluded players that were on the IR all season long, and etc.
thats what i was thinking. if you add yao's salary to the GM value, you can adjust for taking him off of the team salary.
I'm sure it does include Yao... because if you look at the 2008 numbers for Miami it includes Wade because they wouldn't such a negative if it didn't. Edit: I guess that also shows a flaw in the system... because a GM can't predict a player being lost to season ending injuries.
Kind of bogus, regular season success is nice but the playoffs are where it's at. The Suns haven't reached an NBA final in 15 years.
So where would you rate the Suns then, by your standards for the last 6 years? 1)Spurs 2)Lakers 3)Celtics 4)Heat 5)Cavs 6)Mavs 7)Suns One could say that the Pistons trip in 05 to the finals makes their success better, but I would disagree with that. The Pistons have sucked since then and it's reasonable to state that the Suns have had better success since 2005. Throw in 2004 and then we can say Pistons, b/c of the championship. But really, worst possible scenario is that the Suns have had the 8th best POST SEASON success over the last 6 years. I'll say it's somewhere in the range of 5 and 8. And the Suns' owner has been slashing salary the whole time. That shows how good Steve Nash has been for them.
Anybody else thought this was going to be a World of Warcraft story for the NBA with Yao as a high level mage?
The Suns are one of those franchises that doesn't have post season success because they're like the old Nellie Warriors, they run it up and down all season long and then they play teams that are physically tougher that play a half court style of ball more suited to the playoffs. The Suns are perennially soft. The Pistons are in rebuild mode but even right now I would have no problem taking the Pistons to appear in an NBA Final before Phoenix. Six years is kind of an arbitrary amount of time but I'd still take the Pistons in that time frame over the Suns. Until Steve Nash wins something he's just the better shooting, no defense playing version of Kevin Johnson. We've seen this show before.
You know what ranking I care about? The one that gets us a parade downtown and a new trophy for Toyota Center. Think A's fans would trade all their, "our GM is soooo smart" crap for a WS championship? I'm betting they would. I'm tired of formulas...I'd like to see this franchise get past the point where we have celebrations for making it out of the first round of the playoffs.
Sign me up for this one! I don't care how much money you save or how many value low picks you get, show me the ring. Until the ring show up, i don't care about none of that.
