wouldn't it be ironic if the texans and rockets end up w/ the 1st pick of the draft..

well this whole year has not been good to us Houston fans. Texans go 2-14 and the Rockets whom most of us thought would be real contenders for the title this year don't make the playoffs, and now it is up to the Astros to at least get one Houston team into the playoffs. If they don't make it I will be a very sad man.

 

It's been a great year as an Astros fan. Since 2000, the Stros have slowly been moving up as my favorite Houston sports team.

It's always been the Rockets till about 2 years ago.

I do still love my Rockets though.

 

i don't think "ironic" is the right word...

 

It's like rain on a wedding day. Or a pink elephant that isn't afraid of mice.

 

Don't cha think?

 

Well it has and always will be the Rockets for me I don't just make the Astros my favorite team because they have for the first time in 45 years had playoff sucess.

The Rockets have a great owner who is commited to winning first, turning a profit second. The Astros have an owner who is about making money first and then winning second.

The Oilers were a close second behind the Rockets but right now the Texans are probally just a little ahead of the stros for me because they have only been around for five years now.

As far as the picks the Rockets have a 50-60 win team when healthy it's just been a fluke year so I would say they have improved. Also when Yao was drafted we were not that bad we did "win" the draft lotto.

The Texans improved every year until last season and now this year I fully expect us to win at least 8 games and in 07 make the playoffs.

Go Rockets, Texans and Stros and lets hope none of our three teams ever have the number one pick again!

 

What would be ironic is if the Astros won the World Series and then the Rockets came back to win a championship in 2007 while the Texans fought for a playoff spot.

 

i was thinking "poetic justice" after the year we've endured.

 

It's ironic that the owner with the really expensive seats and lottery bound team is considered to be the one committed to winning, while the one with reasonably priced seats that actually wins is blamed for being more interested in making money.

 

BS. If MLB had a salary cap and the NBA did not, whiny Houston sports fans would be saying the exact opposite. Each owner is doing a damn fine job within the constraints of his environment, but comparing the two is very much an apples and oranges fallacy.

 

What if Houston is now under the Astros curse! Nothing good has happened since the stros making it to the world series. It indeed seems that Houston has sold its winning sports future for a world series apperance. Just look at the facts:

Before WS : Texans on the verge of going into the playoffs
After WS: 2-14 and wost team in football

Before WS: Rockets have two of the best young players in the NBA and look to be a Western Confrence powerhouse for years to come.
After WS: Season riddled with injuries and another lottery apperance.

Just bad luck? or the Curse of the Stros!

 

7-9, 11th best team in a 16 team conference where 6 teams make the playoffs is the verge of going to the playoffs?

 

no kidding, one franchise coming off its best season in about 7, and the other in development stage but was still showing a tracking record for improvement in its second and third year.

its actually kind of "s$itty" that these franchises have slipped.

 

Why did Drayton buy the Astros if he was so worried about the bottom line?

I get pissed off when we build them a new stadium and every single season all the tickets go up as well as consessions.

Look he lucked out we had a great team in place as far as scouting and player development.

Drayton did not want to give the unit his money if he did we would have been world series champs. He playes stupid games when it comes to free agents.

I can't belive how this guy has scamed everyone in this city to feel sorry for him or take his side on all the teams moves.

Baseball should be way more affordible than other sports, there are a 162 games. Mark my word when the Astros real off two or three non playoff years the fans will not go.

I don't know about yall but I am scared as hell with Roy o's contract year coming up.

FYI no one would have the opportunity to sign Clemens if Drayton would of just offered him arbitration.

 

Yeah, Drayton never takes care of his players. Remember when Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, Richard Hidalgo, and Billy Wagner all left in free agency? All because of Drayton's cheap ass! Roy's as good as gone.

I also remember how awesome we were before Drayton bought the team. I'd much rather go back to the days of 2 playoff appearances in 35 years. Screw this whole six appearances in 13. That sucks.

 

You are full of **** here. Or maybe it's shinola, not that you'd know the difference.

Criticize all you want, just don't do it with non-factual b.s. from 8 years ago.

 

Well they both got the 1st pick in the 2002 draft, maybe we can hope lightning strikes twice.

 

^^I agree. The reason we didn't resign Randy was that he didn't want to be here, and he let it be known. If he would have had a desire to pitch here in Houston I am sure we would have found a way to make it happen. Fact is the only big name player that the Astros have let go in FA in a long while is Beltran and this franchise is better off for letting him go. And no need to worry Roy is not going anywhere.

 

Show me an owner who *isn't* concerned about the bottom line. It's a business. Repeat it several times: It's a business..

Even Steinbrenner lets guys go based on cost.

Were you pissed when they went up at the Dome, too?

You don't think he knew that going in? Additionally, who hired Gerry Hunsicker? How about Tim Purpura? Nah, it was dumb luck.

Show me a link. He offered the Unit nearly as much money, but it was *quite* well documented that Unit wanted to pitch in Arizona.

Certainly! I mean, it worked in '98, of course it would have worked in '99, right?!?

Thanks for the insult, but I have not been "scammed". Just because I do not share your opinion does not mean I have taken leave of my sense of reason.

You mean it's not?? Can you help me get my entire family into a Texans game for $35? That would ROCK!!!!

Exactly true. And also true of the Rangers, Yankees, Diamondbacks, Phillies, Mets, everyone but the sCrubs. Nothing to do with who the owner is, everything to do with whether or not the team is winning.

Damn straight. I mean, after he screwed up with Bagwell, Biggio, Berkman, Hidalgo, Wagner, etc. I'm surprised we can keep *any* of our up-and-coming stars around here.

Not completely accurate. Rocket could have turned the Astros down, and we would have lost out on our chances on 8 January.

But never mind me and the facts I've presented, Drayton's a cheapscate and I'm just being "duped" by some mastermind brainwashing scheme.