For Eric Hurley, Michael Maine, Engel Beltre, German Duran, David Murphy and Frank Catalanatto? Just a thought. I think that would help both teams... The Astros Farm system would load up on prospects, while Texas gets a 3rd pitcher to help Millwood and Padilla.
Only if Oswalt sucks this year, the next, and the next. =P Pence is just starting his MLB career and is pretty incredible both last year and this... He's a keeper in my opinion. If he gets even a little more power he will be scary. Also he's a great defensive right outfielder if you haven't noticed... from the diving plays to gunning out people at home plate.
You cannot afford to give up Pence. There is absolutely no power bat right now in the Astros minor league system. You can't afford to give up the only proven power you have that's under 30 when there is nothing proven behind him.
Uh..no...Yes, ROy isn't Roy of old, but c'mon, its not even the all-star break...Even then, it' would take a couple of bad years to consider it, even thought his stock would decline over the same time period...
why would you trade a young RF for minor leaguers? you dont trade talent at the majors to strengthen your minor league system. you trade to strengthen your major league team. winning in the minors doesnt help the astros. michael main is far from a sure thing, and hurley hasnt done much outside of AA. he's sucked it up at AAA the past 2 years. you also dont trade for 18 year old dominicans in A ball.
O for pitching prospects isn't unthinkable, but moving Pence is. I'd want a ready to go stud #2 pitcher for him. Evan
Quite a lot of junk on that list. Frank Catalanatto? Engel Beltre? What do we need with a whole list of junk major and minor league outfielders? Angel Duran and Eric Hurley have both sucked @ss this year. Duran is a one year wonder from last year who has come back to earth and Hurley is a fastball only, with a 5+ AAA ERA and probably is destined to be a middle reliever if he doesn't put in a whole lot of work and becomes a legitimate major leaguer. He's a great example of how pitchers can throw a million miles per hour, look great in AA, and not be the real deal. Michael Main is in low A, a long way from the majors with much chance to blow out an arm or stall in development on the way. Not a chance in hell for that junk. I wouldn't do that trade even if it was only Roy, removing Pence. Quantity doesn't make up for quality. Murphy is the only name on that list worth getting excited about, and Murphy for Roy isn't happening. We already have an upgrade over Murphy in Pence.
I would listen to offers for just about anything. However, with the names you have mentioned above, Saltamaccia (sp?), Smoak, and pitching prospects. Obviously you would also want Hamilton, but dont see the Rangers giving him up under any circumstances.
Ok, ok... I forgot how in love everyone is with Hunter Pence.. So well leave him out. The Astros need to revamp their young players. Texas happens to have Tons of Talent in their system. I think it would make sense to trade Oswalt while he still has value.. BTW people look at how players end up when Texas ends up trading them, I suprised u guys arent all over this idea.
Rangers would never ever ever give Hamilton away. The guy is making like 300K this year. Talk about bang for your buck. I also happen to think the Josh Hamilton is the most talented player in all of baseball.
Junk? You've got to be kidding me.. I admit Catalanotto is junk.. But you would be crazy to turn down a deal like that, minus Pence. BTW I bet you have nothing but positive things to say about all the talent (or lack of) in the Astros farm system.
I'd bet you haven't read any of my posts. But the only person out of that deal that has a greater than 50% chance of becoming a legitimate major league player is already a legitimate major leaguer. The other stuff has limited to no major league future at this point. If I were a betting man, I would bet that none of the others become anything more than part time major leaguers. Eric Hurley, obviously, used to have tons of hype, but so did Tim Redding. For Hurley, the blush has left the rose. Yesterday's top prospect and $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee. So what it comes down to IMO is Oswald straight for Murphy, and I wouldn't trade Oswald straight for Murphy. That at least is more defensable than Oswalt and Pence for Murphy, but I still wouldn't do it.
when you trade away A NUMBER 1 PITCHER, you expect to get alot back in return. eric hurley probably wont be a top 100 prospect after this year murphy is already 26, almost 27 years old. and beltre? are you kidding me? maybe youre intrigued because he's so young, but the guy has huge potential to be a bust. how exactly does this trade make us better? seriously? pence is younger and better than murphy. so you wanna trade roy oswalt, a proven #1, for eric hurley, engel beltre, and frank catalanotto? wow. really?
I like how he acts like we're putting too much value on our guys while he, the Rangers fan; is properly evaluating his guys. A bunch of non sure thing minor leaguers and an average 34 yo outfielder who makes more than Pence. How does trading away our only good pitcher (even though he is struggling right now) and our best young player on the major league team for that junk help us long term or short term? Last I checked, the Astros still had a winning record with over half of the season still left. If we ever blow this team up, we will get better talent than that.
