Nowhere, has it been stated that Howard is on the market. This question is being posed as a result of the article posted below. But, if he were available, would you make the trade? I doubt that we could get Howard for Nachbar straight up, but I'd at least try before offering to include a #1 pick. I might even try to offer Badiane/#1 pick for him. My reasons for making this trade are: 1) Talent vs. Potential Talent Howard proved last year that he can produce while on the floor & would make a great role player on this team by backing up JJ. Nachbar has shown glimpses of his talent & I love his hustle, but Langhi, Collier, & Griffin showed glimpses of their talents as well, but where are they now? Potential gets you nothing, if it's unrealized. 2) What if McGrady's back continues acting up? Our roster (after the Mutombo trade) will have McGrady, JJ, Gaines, & Nachbar playing the 2/3, with Sura playing the 1/2 positions. If McGrady goes down for any period of time, we could find ourselves relying on JJ & Sura, or Nachbar's potential, as our starters. If Nachbar elevates his game this year, then McGrady being out of commission for a while might not hurt us as much. I'm just a little apprehensive about T-Mac's back going into the season. 3) System Compatability Having watched Howard only briefly, I may be assuming too much when I say he can fit with our half court system. However, I can say that Nachbar's game appears to be more suited to a wide open offense like Dallas's, where he can slice to the hole for easy layups & dunks. Nachbar would be the kind of player that the Mavericks seem to drool over. So, the question is, would the trade be beneficial to both teams? According to the article below, Dallas is loaded at the 2/3 & Howard might not get many minutes. Since he was playing starter minutes at one point last year, will he be unhappy? Would trading for Nachbar (who is young & still developing his game) & a #1 draft pick be the right move for Dallas? With 17 players still on Dallas's roster, would trading for Badiane (still playing & developing his game overseas) & a #1 pick be the right way to go? What's your opinion & why? Star-Telegram.com Posted on Thu, Sep. 02, 2004 Mavericks Notes Mavs' crowded roster has Howard in hard spot By Dwain Price Star-Telegram Staff Writer DALLAS - Josh Howard raised his eyebrows a time or two in June when the Mavericks acquired Jerry Stackhouse in a trade with the Washington Wizards. After all, Stackhouse is a veteran swingman, the same position played by Howard, Michael Finley and Marquis Daniels. And with Finley in the middle of a seven-year, $102.2 million contract, and Daniels having recently signed a five-year, $29.4 million contract, Howard is wondering if he's still in the Mavs' long-range plans. "Those two guys, Finley and Stackhouse, have a lot of experience, and they know the game more than me and Marquis," Howard said. "It's going to be another learning experience." Howard received extensive playing time early last season as a rookie after he was selected on the first round (29th overall) of the 2003 NBA Draft. But after suffering a late-season leg injury, Howard lost considerable ground to Daniels. Overall last year, Howard averaged 8.6 points and 23.7 minutes during the regular season but just 5.4 points during the five-game playoff series against Sacramento after seeing his minutes decrease to 17.2 per game. Now, Howard is faced with the challenge of finding more playing time with Daniels and two former All-Stars -- Finley and Stackhouse -- standing in his way. "Playing time will go to the guy who plays the best," owner Mark Cuban said. "Overall, with Stackhouse, J.T. [Jason Terry], Devin Harris and the continued improvement of our young guys, it makes us a far better team this year." Howard merely hopes he doesn't wake up one morning and see his name on the trading blocks. "I'm going to have to come in and be ready," he said. "Wherever I get a chance to play, I'm going to have to play. "I've been working hard this summer. I'm going to continue to try to learn the game in coach's system, and I hope to stay in Dallas." Although Cuban said during halftime of Monday's Cowboys-Tennessee Titans game that this is the best team he's fielded since he purchased the Mavs on Jan. 4, 2000, Howard would rather see how things pan out before passing judgment. But he does know things won't be the same after the Mavs lost integral pieces this summer such as Steve Nash, Antawn Jamison, Antoine Walker, Eduardo Najera and Danny Fortson. "We lost some key people, but it's a business and that's one thing that I've learned," Howard said. "I hate to see all those guys leave, but I wish them the best of luck, like I know they do the same for us. "Everybody that's coming in this year is going to bring something different than the people last year, so we've got to wait and see. We just have to play ball and keep our heads up." Stefansson released The Mavs trimmed their roster to 17 Wednesday by waiving guard Jon Stefansson. A year ago today Stefansson signed a six-year nonguaranteed contract with the Mavs, but he never made it to the active roster during the season after suffering what team officials described as a sprained left ankle. The Iceland native is expected to continue his basketball career in Europe. Cuban may buy out two Owner Mark Cuban said he will "probably look to do some buyouts" with other players. Those players are believed to be guard Dan Dickau and forward Tariq Abdul-Wahad. Dickau, acquired last week in a trade with Golden State, has one year and $893,000 left on his contract. Meanwhile, Abdul-Wahad has three years and $23 million remaining on his contract, although only $12 million of that is guaranteed.
Jeff has cleared this up in numerous threads. T-mac does not have a chronic back problem, he had trouble with it last season favoring a leg due to an injured knee. His knee is now healthy again. His back is a non issue.
I don't think Dallas would do this. Our draft pick is not going to be very high, and Boki plays the same position as Howard. If Josh Howard is on the market because the Mavs have a logjam at 2/3, why would they trade him for someone who plays the same position?
1st round draft pick plus Boki can come off of the books this year? I don't know that its much of a reason but its the only one I can think of.
Center: Erick Dampier, Bradley, Pavel Podkolzin, DJ Mbenga, Calvin Booth Power Forward: Dirk Nowitzki, Small Forward: Michael Finley, Josh Howard Shooting Guard: Marquis Daniels, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry Point Guard: Devin Harris, Dan Dickau, Travis Best Oh yeah, That team is really screwed up.
I don't think Boki would get the job done. The Mavs need another Power Forward that can score but they are loaded at every other position. Maybe something along the lines of MoT for Josh Howard and something else would interest them. MoT is with out a doubt Don Nelsons type of player and would give them a true scoring power forward off of the bench.
I hear the Celtics are interested in clearing playing time for their first-round pick, Tony Allen. Would Rockets fans like the idea of trading a first-rounder and filler (i.e. the trade exception or Nachbar or whatever) for Jiri Welsch? I know Nachbar has done nothing with the rockets in his three seasons... but Jiri has shown he can play in the NBA, and had a good season despite playing with an injured hand and competing with Ricky Davis for minutes. So... like the idea? Because this trade could happen...
Dallas' backcourt is suspect. Terry is an undersized two-guard, Stackhouse has been banged up the last year or 2 and it's a question whether he can fit with the Mavs, Best hasn't done anything in several years and the othe guys are unproven. Dallas could have a good backcourt or a crappy backcourt, BIG question marks there!
' So frickin true!!!! I like Boki too, but I'll be honest, I think Gaines is a better prospect... (Oh yes I DID).
How 'bout? Houston trades: PG Tyronn Lue (10.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.2 apg in 30.7 minutes) SF Bostjan Nachbar (3.1 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.7 apg in 11.5 minutes) SG Reece Gaines (1.8 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 9.6 minutes) 1st Round Pick Houston receives: PG Marcus Banks (5.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.2 apg in 17.1 minutes) SG Jiri Welsch (9.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 26.9 minutes) SF Walter McCarty (7.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 24.7 minutes) Change in team outlook: +7.6 ppg, +3.2 rpg, and +0.1 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED
I don't think there is any question that Marquis Daniels can play the 2 guard at a high level. The only real question on the team is point guard. An option that Dallas has is to play Daniels at the point with Finley at the 2 and Howard at the 3. That is a pretty solid group.
Boki is not worse than Josh Howard. BUT neither RudyT nor JVG are willing to develope young players unless that young player is a top 3 pick. Even Nelson give young players enough playtime on that star packed Dallas Mavericks. You cannot develope your game without any playtime. It sucks for being a rookie in Rockets uniform.
