Houston trades: Kelvin Cato, Cutino Mobley, Boki, Adrian Griffen + 6.9 million trade exception, future 1st round draft pick + 2004 2nd round draft pick Houston Receives: Rasheed Wallace, Ruben Patterson, Jeff Mcinnis Why Houston and Les want to make this trade: After watching the Boston Game, I think Sheed would be the perfect fit for Yao like Duncan and Robinson. Sheed got an all around game similar to Yao, the twin towers would take turns scoring in the hi-low post. That would be unstoppable. Losing Mobley is not such a big deal because Rockets have Pik, JJ, and Stevie to take over. Jeff would be a great backup PG and SG. Ruben would start at SF. Les would do this because of all the playoff dollars. This is not a fair trade for Portland but Sheed's trade value has never being lower. Why Portland do this trade? Portland will not be able to land a star in return for Sheed because they also don't want to take a bad contract in return. Sheed's contract make him nearly impossible to trade. Come trade deadline, this deal will make the most sense for Portland. The key attraction for Portland will be Mobley, who's got a consistent outside jumper to complement Zach. Cato is a useful big body in the middle with a decent contract. Boki and draft picks would be useful in the future. By getting rid of Patterson and Mcinnis's contracts, Portland will be planning ahead for free agency in the 2006. Realistically, no other team are willing to offer this much talent for sheed. I hope CD has the balls to trade for Rasheed much like the trade for another Portland great.
If we trade for Rasheed I believe it would be through a third team. I like Rasheed as a player (canker sore of a human being) and McInnis as well; JVG likes vets so Paterson is possible but I don't know---Cat is insurance against Sheed leaving.
I thought about a three way as well but with sheed's contract, a three way trade with sheed is impossible. So it's gotta be two way. I agree with ya that sheed is a head case but he's not crazy like EG.
I wouldn't mind getting Wallace but getting Patterson in my mind would be worse as far as character issues. At least Rasheed is a semi-star. Smoking dope and having a bad attitude pales in comparison to the number of things I've read about Patterson over the years. What as it, hitting his girlfriend and sexually assaulting his kids nanny? Shoot, Eddie Griffin had more talent and potential than this guy and we dumped him. I wouldn't mind getting Woods though. I thought we were taking him for sure with the 15th pick when he slipped. But yeah, NO Patterson. At least Rasheed's good....
You have to take the good and the bad. But I do believe Patterson has got a bad rap in the past for good reason but I read some where that he's a new found Christian and has really clean up his act. JVG will keep him in line. I remember when he first came into the league with Seattle, he remindes me of Jerome Kearsy, someone with grit and played with passion. He's also very active on defensive end. I hope both Sheed and Ruben will get a new begining in Houston.
If we trade Cat in a deal for Sheed, then he won't re-sign, leaving us with nothing to show for everything that we traded. We need to wait till the offseason, or maybe they'll cut him and we'll pick him up.
Sane, I think that is being pretty presumptuous! We know that Wallace and Cat have a good friedly relationship but I doubt that Wallace is just going to up and leave just because Cat is not here! Money talks in sports. Perhaps he would like playing with Yao and Francis. I am sure the world of Wallace does not revolve around Cat. I am not saying we should or shouldn't trade for Wallace, but I think if you DID want him, trading Cat is not going to cause Wallace to leave. Aside from the off the court issues, I happen to think Wallace would thrive on this team in the JVG system and he would really work well with Yao in the offense.
Why is a 3 way impossible? If you mean capwise, I can show 5 or 6 that work easily. Here's one off the top of my head: Mobley + Taylor to Atlanta SAR to POR Wallace (w TE) to Houston You can't do this in RealGM because RealGm does not factor in the trade exception. The TE means all of the trade dreamcasters are actually going to have to do some RealWork for a change.
Sane - If the Rockets trade for Rasheed before the Feb trade, they will have his full Bird Rights even though he is an URFA. Meaning they can offer him more to re-sign than any teams other than DEN, UTAH, & LAC. He could in theory, take Portland's MLE to return to POR to play with Cuttino. But I doubt it. If Wallace truly doesn't want to be in HOU w/o Mobley and he wants to make any kind of money beyond the MLE, the Rockets have his Bird Rights and can SnT him for a player they want for a contract and team he likes. If they wait until the summer, both the Blazers and Rasheed have to agree to the components of a SnT. Does Wallace not take a $10m-$13m offer from Houston because Mobley is headed to POR? Again, I don't think so.
Possible on paper, impossible in reality. Neither Blazers or Rockets are willing to take on big contracts to match up the salaries.
Any deal with Portland would have to be a 3-team deal, period. It's not just a $$ problem, but we have nothing more to offer Portland than Cat. I'm pretty sure they don't want Cato, especially since he has a much higher price tag now. MoT is the exact type of player they are trying to get rid of. I though of this though: Houston trades: Cat/MoT/2nd rounder Houston recieves: Sheed Atlanta trades: SAR Atlanta recieves: Stoudamire/MoT/and some Cash too Portland trades: Sheed Portland recieves: SAR/2nd rounder
I clicked yes before I looked at the price tag. I would trade for Rasheed. But c'mon we can't keep trading draft picks. At some point a 1st rounder to replenish the roster would be nice. We already didn't have one last year, won't have one this year, I will not trade next years unless it's a great deal. If we can lock Rasheed up for a longer term contract then maybe, but that's uncertain at this point.
