Man this team sure can't play the Refs. We have no clue. Francis is the #2 T's player in the NBA, and hip hops in circles after crucial calls, while Mobley...uh...once ran into the stands while the ball was in play to tell me he got fouled. Makes me think...Someone tell me the last time the Rockets had a homegrown who could play the refs. Dream couldn't...Sampson? Reid/Lloyd were whiners as I recall. I can't remember how Lucas handled himself. Horry, Smith Cassell. Even our big acquisitions have the whiney gene....Drexler, #33, Willis. Only Barkley and Mo' stand out as guys who can cheat and still get the calls. Anderson is too smooth on defense to cheat, and too spastic on offense to get away with it. So, my question...is this part of being a Rocket's fan. Do you like them, because they don't practice cheating and playing the refs. Think how much you get angry at Francis and Mobley for whining, and think...what if they were like ... Malone, Stockton and Hornachek do. Let's ignore the Malone elbows and hissy kicks trying to injure people, and just consider the flopping and bear-hugging...all that Rodman stuff. Could you still love our Rockets if Dream was a Flopper! btw: to play this game, try to remain on the extremes, no Michael Jordan got the calls without Flopping...no middle ground i can't take an extreme position like TheFreakiness. What's better: Francis/Mobley as whiners or sissy floppers
Hell I'm constantly losing respect for Iverson because of his Reggie Miller Esque Flopping. . . No . . . better to b**** about a legitimate pt than be a flopper over some imaginary slight Rocket River ------------------
Could you still love our Rockets if Dream was a Flopper! Yeah, because if our guys flopped, we would think of them as "good plays" rather than "cheap tricks". Similar to how we look at all calls as either "bad calls" or "proper calls". ------------------ http://www.swirve.com ... more fun than a barrel full of monkeys and midgets.
uh, Shanna, didn't I say, "no middle ground i-can't-take-an-extreme position like TheFreakiness." Take your Freakiness away...
I vote for sissy floppers. It just sounds funny. After you hit the deck, you can bounce up & get back into the game. Total down time: 5 seconds. If you whine, you have to chase the ref down & then start pleading your case, which could result in a technical. Total whining time: minimum of 10 seconds (long enough for your man to break to the basket for an easy lay up or dunk). There are no technicals given for sissy floppers, just bruised butts. ------------------
Neither but if you had to be one. It better to look smart (Flopper) more than being a baby(whiner).. ------------------ Tennessee is a suburb of Houston. Go Oilers....
Hell yes, flopping is playing by the rules. It's the refs that suck for giving guys the calls for doing it. Flop away. If you fall down, it's automatically a foul. Guys wouldn't flop if the refs didn't reward it.
I vote for flopping. And before anyone starts to think that I want the Rocks to grow up to be the Jazz, realize that flopping is a part of the Jazz's game, and not a way to play the refs. That's why everyone but Jazz fans and players detest them, it's almost cheating what they do. But there's nothing wrong with playing with a little craftiness and savvy. ------------------
You're right. They just don't know how to cheat. I think they're learning though. ------------------ I hate role players
You know what, looking back at that game 6 bearhug, I would just have to belive that implementing certain cheating tactics into their play would have an impact on the course of the game and directly effect the outcome. Can anyone say otherwise? Besides, Barkley did it and none of us had a problem with it and it was actually kind of funny when he got away with certain crap. Heypartner, you need to try to bump into either Francis or Mobes this offseason and tell them directly to their faces that they need to inspire to be World Class Cheaters. Also a call to the sports radio station when Rudy Tomjanovich is on and make an inquiry to him about whether they teach and encourage any of the players to properly cheat and if so do they run certain scrimages that are primarily used to teach sissy flopping. And since Rudy is a big percentages guy ask him who in this league has a higher winning percentage; teams who cheat or teams that primarily whine. Also, ask who has the best outcome of winning at the final 10 seconds of a game where the score is tied--teams who consistently cheat or teams that don't. And try to find out if there is anything in the Koran that forbids somebody from cheating and if so could rasing hakeems tithe from 10% to say maybe 15% grant the dream immunity. Do you research Heypartner. And let us know what Rudy tells ya.
I don't think you can be a flopper and NOT be a whiner. Look at the Jazz, they flop, what happens when they don't get the call? Time to whine and cry to the refs about how they missed the call. The thing Francis and Mobley need to learn is to not jump around when they complain. That draws attention to them and it shows up the ref. If they just stayed on the refs and complained about the call w/o hopping around like jackasses I bet the refs would respect our team alot more. ------------------ Forget LHutz, Bob Rainey is by far the coolest poster in cc.net history!
I wouldn't go as far to call them "jackasses".I just think they are so into the game, that little things just get them even more wired. They both love the game and it shows. ------------------ I hate role players
Forget flopping we can win without it. I don't want to be known as another Jazz. If Dream was a flopper he wouldn't have the respect that he gets. ------------------
The only problem with this energy they show is that some of those refs think they're getting shown up by these actions. ------------------ Forget LHutz, Bob Rainey is by far the coolest poster in cc.net history!
Flopping w/o whining is ineffective. The Jazz both flop and whine. The Rockets complain, but they do so very openly, when they learn to idle up to the ref during a free throw and make a casual comment concerning a call of the refs. ------------------ I'm just a communist whose come to blow sunshine up your ass. The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
