If the Texans ended up with the #1-2 pick(next w/ SF) would you want to draft Matt Leinart? Is the OL the real problem to you or do you think it mite be but, Carr just isn't IT also.
Yes and no. Yes, if they are able to execute other trades to get another 1st rounder or a couple of 2nd rounders for OL (mind you, I have no clue whatsoever how all that works or how plausible it is)--because OL *is* the problem. No, because OL *is* the problem. The team can neither run nor pass. Carr in the pocket has his shoulder hunched like he's just waiting to get pounded *again*. The guys on the air were whining about the Texans not attempting the deep pass--how could they, with 1.25 seconds of protection? "Deep" for this OL means about 17 yards. I still can't understand why the dismantled a decent defense all spring and summer long and completely ignored the OL. I hope they're not surprised by what they're getting. In case I didn't make it clear, the Texans' OL sucks.
Marcus vick would be such a waste in this offense. They play so conservatively that Vick would just suffocate in the pocket. Leinart would be the prototypical QB that could fit into this offense but he'll go down like Carr with this offensive line. Upgrade the OL before you give up on Carr.
The Texans need to have a Rockets-like summer next year. They need to completely overhaul the offensive line (again), and invest as many resources into making that better as possible. Even if David Carr isn't the answer, a good offensive line would benefit the entire team, and any other QB who follows him -- the offense would be on the field longer, giving the defense some rest, the running game would improve, and the passing game couldn't help but get better, regardless of who's out there. There are so many holes on this team, it's hard to know where to start, but getting an offensive line that doesn't suck should be THE order of business for the Texans.
Not a QB, not a RB, not any position other than OL or maybe DL. Especially not Bush... he's Tony Hollings part II in this system. If you're going to look at any running back, it needs to be someone with a strong leg drive to move the piles... a blazer with receiving skills like Bush is worthless without a good offensive line because there aren't any holes. Learn from your mistakes. Our offensive skill players look worse than they are because they have about 1.5 seconds to let a play develop. Our defensive skill players (secondary, MLB) look worse than they are because the opposition has gaping holes to run through and countless seconds for receivers to get open. Regardless of instinct, none of us can make any kind of conclusive judgment on Carr, Davis, Johnson, Gaffney, Dunta, Buchanon and others until they have something resembling average lines. Until that point, it's a question of if. There's a possibility that each of those players could be quality NFL starters... and given the investment we have in those guys, it's worth it to build quality lines and find out. We know we desperately need offensive and defensive lines. We don't know if we need a QB or any other position. Take care of the known needs first.
IF USC wins out then 1 loss in 3 yrs 3 championships 2 heismans [maybe] I say yea what lineman can you get with that Resume? and how will the One Lineman change things that much IF we get the #1 and have to trade it. . . we BETTER get a later 1st rounder . .a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder I mean SERIOUSLY . .If you pass up THE RESUME we BETTER completely over haul the line If you pass up JORDAN . .YOU BETTER NOT GET SAM BOWIE!!! If I have Drexler . . .I'd trade Jordan for Barkley and Sampson You do not pass up an upgrade in the QB unless a MAJOR change is coming on the line otherwise the line can be change via free agency and later round drafting Rocket River
priority use 1st round pick on franchise LT 2nd round use it on a guard 3rd round use it on a potential NT or OLB 3rd round (from New Orleans) use it on OL
ONE MORE THING If the OL is so bad. . . maybe we should fire the OL Coach oh wait. . . . we promoted him Rocket River
that's not the DL's fault. in fact, i think it's in much better shape than our LB'ing corps, which is below average. they don't get to the QB; they don't play well in space; they don't cover well... almost every guy in the unit is playing out of position and it shows. this is arguably the least impactful group of LB's in all of football. you have two surefire building blocks: robinson and johnson. what they have to - HAVE TO - do is bench carr ASAP and find out how much of the offensive problems are on his shoulders. if banks or ragone can be more productive than carr has been we need to know now, not later so we can pull the plug and move on. you CANNOT go into next year's draft with a likely top 5 pick and have no clue where your weaknesses are; you cannot go into the free agent signing period with nearly $8M committed to carr if he's still a question mark. this team is going to be lucky to win 5 games this year. it's a massive step backwards. they need to make a final verdict on carr immediately and benching him is the only way to do it.
Two priorities for this team... 1. an improved OLine and 2. upgrade the linebackers This years draft looks like it'll be jam packed with OLine talent unlike last year which had virtually nothing. They'll draft linemen unless Charlie Kasserly really loses his mind and decides to be detroit and keep drafting players at positions you don't need.
Yup we definently need to just build up this OL. that is the only way we are going to be able to be effective on Offense.
A lineman for USC. Leinart's not winning those games himself... it's a combination of him with the greatest depth and collection of skill players and offensive linemen that the college game has ever seen. No disrespect to Leinart, because he's a terrific player, but USC's surrounding talent is so tremendous that there are numerous quarterbacks in college football that could have the same success in terms of wins and losses. The Texans have done that for years. It hasn't worked. It's been a massive failure. It's time to try a new plan.
Honestly, geez. Look at how many gaping holes we have on this team. Last time I checked, QB wasn't one of them. If you draft Leinart or any other stud and stick him behind this line, the same damn thing is gonna happen to them that has happened to Carr this season. Last I checked we have a decent QB, whose potential is being hindered by a weak OL and lack of confidence in the pocket. And besides the OL, there are plenty of other things that need to be addressed before you even begin to consider replacing the QB. If you draft Leinart, you waste the pick.
I agree with you on our outside linebackers; that's why I only listed MLB. I actually haven't been too disappointed with Wong and Greenwood in coverage. I'm not saying they're very much above average, but I don't think they're hurting the team. It's the lack of any kind of penetration into the backfield from either the defensive line or the outside linebackers that is my primary concern defensively. I don't think there are questions where our weaknesses are - both lines, and to an extent the outside linebackers. Carr was in the top half of the league in rating last year, and has been above 90 in both games since that horrid opener. I may be in the minority, but I don't have many concerns about him at all. I think we have the most easily identifiable weakness of any team in football, and I think it's absurd if the Texans don't address it in the '06 draft.
Take a QB? Not with this coaching staff (and scouting and GM). If the record 'allows' a Top 5 pick I look at what the new coach wants. If it's Carroll and he wants Leinart then fine, trade Carr. You cannot rebuild what has never been built. Such a disappointing four years.
That dude is a wideout on the next level. No way he makes it as a QB. Vince Young on the other hand will be a stud once he learns how to read a defense. I don't have to mention Leinart because everyone knows he's the best QB on the draft list.
