Would somebody please explain it to me like I'm a four year old?

You know this goes against everything I've been saying, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Whether it's this game or next game, I would start Griffin or give him a ton of minutes. Our frontcourt is so thin. Outside of KT and Willis we're getting NO production up front. Griffin was a shot-blocking and rebounding machine in the preseason. That's EXACTLY what we need. I'd run a few post plays for him. The Lakers PF position is horrible. Kenny Thomas I feel is better then Samaki Walker. Robert Horry is decent, but I'd run Griffin out there. Maybe he'll be excited to be playing on a national stage against the world champions and have a big game.

 

There's your answer.

Parker, Tinsley, Joe Johnson, Murphey, Richardson are getting more time and production than EG. Many of them are younger than EG. And those cats are intricate parts of decent teams too.

EG should definitely get more play.

 

Its what everyone has been saying, why is the hell he's always so far from the goal? Rudy has been more than slow to get the TEAM involved in the game. Not just Francis dribbling and Thomas with the pnr, its getting everyone touches the ball. They can say what they will about the triangl offense, but everyone gets to touch the ball at least once in a pretty good position. The same can be said about Pete Carrils motion offense in Sac, and Don Nelsons O in Dallas. We just need to get everyone invloved besides the two with the ball.

 

In that group, I think only Parker may be younger.

I trust Rudy. He brought Sam a bit slow in the beginning. I think he knows what he's doing.

But, I know this wasn't possible, but would it have been nice if we had Jefferson and Randolph? How are those two playing?

 

Jefferson has been having an average to an above-average season from the games I've watched. Randolph hasn't seen the light of day off the Blazers' bench after having a phenomenal summer league...

Oh, and we went to lunch today at work and saw a Viper drive up with the license plate "BUSBOY"... the first thing I thought of was gr8-1. I said "damn, no wonder he doesn't have to work!"

 

Like a four year old? Okay:


Now listen sonny, do you see that tall slightly balding man who yells and screams during Rockets games? He is what we call a "coach", and his name is Rudy. Coaches like to cheer on their teams. See that group of guys in the ugly stripey clothes? That is Rudy's team. Rudy cheers on that team, and he also controls their every move. Now, do you see that smoking piece of rolled up paper in Rudy's hand? ...

I give up.


Rudy is smoking some serious ****! What the f**k is his problem? Put Griffin you complete git!

 

Rudy's patience is too much. We should trade Walt outta here too. We'd benefit more from T-mo and EG getting the minutes.

 

Eddie Griffin
Born: May 30, 1982, Philadelphia, PA

Tony Parker
Born: May 17, 1982, Bruges, Belgium

Jamaal Tinsley
Born: February 28, 1978, Brooklyn, NY

Joe Johnson
Born: June 29, 1981, Little Rock, AR

Jason Richardson
Born: January 20, 1981, Saginaw, MI

Troy Murphy
Born: May 2, 1980, Sparta, NJ
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I guess I was wrong. The point is still valid though. EG is not much less experienced than these guys at all. I suspect if any of these guys were on the Rocks, Rudy T would not play them anywhere close to the amount of minutes they are getting now.

Now I'm not saying Rudy T is wrong; it's just that his patience is much greater than mine. Oh, and isn't Kwame Brown a starter?

 

Rudy T. ought to be sacked.

Get Larry Smith to call the shots. Heck, if no one can rebound, he might have to play again.

 

I think by the end of the year, we will be seeing a lot more PT for Eddie. Right now, I think Rudy's just trying to let him adjust...plus, he doesn't want to wear him out with too many minutes this early in the season. Remember, there are a lot more games in the NBA than in college, and also high school, where Eddie was just two years ago.

I'm fine with ten or fifteen minutes a game for now, but in the second half he needs to be getting at least 20 or 25.

 

Geez, it's not like we gave up a 20-10 PF for him, and are playing him less than 15 MPG on a terrible team.

Also, the difference between a college freshman and a college junior basketball wise is huge. Tinsley and Murphy were upperclassmen, and Richardson and Johnson are playing on far worse teams, and had a year more in college.

Parker is valid, but I'd hardly consider Antonio Daniels, PG, an equivalent of Kenny Thomas, PF.

KT is a solid NBA roleplayer. Rudy isn't going to just hand Griff the job, as it'd be unfair to KT, to put some rook ahead of him when he hasn't been outplayed and unfair to Griff to put that kind of pressure on him.

BTW, Collins recently said that Brown didn't do enough to justify those starts, and Kwame will fall to the edge of the rotation, if in at all.

Compare him to Swift-Swift looked like a lost dear and had a couple years on Griff in his rookie season, while now he is going 14-7.

 

While I agree with many of your points, Boston is 5-2 and GS is 5-5. I still think the Rocks are better, but those are not "far worse" teams.

Again, I'm not sayin Rudy T is wrong, but there's just this feelin I have that if Griffin is given the time, he will produce...and his roof definitely higher than KT's.

 

Uh Huh. And I have a feeling that if given the time Oscar Torres will "produce".

Give me a few minutes at the line and I'll "produce"...

Griffin is clearly not ready. The minutes he's had he has not used "productively" (defensively) - that's what tells me he's not ready.

He will average 9 rebs, 2 steals, and 1.9 blocks after he grows a little - and when he learns how to be more agressive. Until that happens he will just get precious practice NBA minutes...

(do you guys even realize what that means???)

Right now the Rox need to win games. EG ain't doin that yet, and that's why Rudy isn't playing him.

 

Yes, it is important that he is getting time to become acclimated with the team and the system, and ideally he will make a strong impact as the year progresses. But why can't the guy get thrown to the fire and help this team win games also. Maybe it's the system that makes it difficult for players to adjust to; maybe it's the player.

I would just like a decent explanation of how Parker and Johnson are doing quite well early on?

Also, Oscar Torres is not as good as Eddie Griffin. Your comparison is flawed. Comon man, EG lead college in blocks, and averaged like 18 pts and 12 rebounds.

As of now, the Rocks are hurting in big man depth. Cato is dead wood (nothing new). I doubt EG taking all of Cato's time would be anymore detrimental to the team than Cato. Yes, there would be concern for Cato's esteem and the money factor, but anyone who doesn't think Cato has accomplished nothing is either the most blinded fan or is The Cat...but even The Cat has finally admitted it.

So if your #1 goal is to win games now, play your best players. EG, in my opinion, is better than Cato, and if given the time, will show why he was considered a potential first pick in the draft.

 

I'm baffled as well. where on earth is eddie? he'll be a force as soon as he gets his time. He knows he isn't going to be the man and I think the only way he'll get mature is if he plays.

 

Antonio Daniels was a key player for the team with the best record in the league. I'd say that makes him (in theory) tougher to supplant than a key player on a lottery team.