Lets just say we are really lucky and get one one the top three picks. Duncan informs the Spurs that he is going to leave. So we give Cato, our top pick, Drew, Cuttino, and maybe another pick for Duncan. I dont know how it works out salary wise but who really cares about all that crap ------------------
Of course I would. BUT I don't think they give Duncan for Cato (and an unknown rookie)... Duncan is the best center in the league (maybe better than $haq) and very young! ------------------ Peter Komlosi, alias KP. Student of Computer Technology University of Veszprem, Hungary komlosip@almos.vein.hu
Can we assume that drug cartels are involved somehow? ------------------ "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and STATISTICS..." - Mark Twain -
Throw in a carton of smokes and a case of Bud, I think they do it. Hell no, they would never trade Duncan for that! I wouldn't trade Hakeem for that. Not even now. Well..... ------------------ HOOP-T Hey Shaq, Acme called, and they want their bricks back!
I think it as a reasonable trade given that Rocket prefaced it with "Duncan informs the Spurs he's going to leave". #7 lottery slot Cuttino Cato Drew is a nice way to rebuild with youth for such an old team, when placed in a desparate situation like losing Duncan. I'd offer this as well: #7 Cuttino KT Drew Now Rocket03, here's a twist to the thread: What if the ping pong balls land us the #1. Would you still make the trade? How about #2.
If the Rockets land the #1 pick, I still make the trade. You are getting a known commodity. A NBA superstar, for a potential star. How many #1 picks ever reach the height that Duncan has in so short a time? DaDakota ------------------
I would definitely trade a no. 1 or 2 pick for a proven young commodity like Timmy. WHERE DO WE SIGN? ------------------ HOOP-T Hey Shaq, Acme called, and they want their bricks back!
Watch out for the extremity of the trade. We think we're loaded at guard with Drew and Cuttino. But of course you still do it regardless of having the top pick or not. Just don't complain about Duncan when he hobbles in exhausted next year after the Olympics. San Antonio looks so tired lately. Their backcourt is 35+ with their bench. ------------------
SA might do it if backed into a corner, but if I were the Rockets there is no way I would. #3 pick and (say) #22 pick, Cato, Drew, Mobley for one man? I happen to think that Duncan is the best player in the league, but you'd have to be insane to pay so much for him. It would be much like the Barkley for Cassell, Horry, Brown, [who was the last guy?] trade, except this time we'd lose three quality players instead of just one. ------------------ [This message has been edited by JuanValdez (edited April 07, 2000).]
[Mark Bryant] I do this deal in a heartbeat. Duncan is a 24 year old perennial MVP candidate. You don't pass that up. You can't trade Mobley for Duncan since both are free agents so you'll have to put Shandon instead. So Cato + Shandon + pick + Drew + Williams for Duncan? Unfortunately I don't think the Spurs take this deal even if that's the best they get just because we are in the same division. They will ask for Francis and I would do it if we could do this instead: Francis + Williams + Drew + Rogers + Thomas for Duncan. Use the pick to draft Erick Barkley to play PG. Our starting line-up would be: SF: Anderson PF: Cato C: Duncan PG: E.Barkley SG: Mobley
ahhhhh not Francis for Duncan! twisting the thread some more.... Clutch...better clear up some harddrive space before you head out for the weekend. Aside from your twist outlaw: "...a perennial MVP candidate. you don't pass that up" is right with me.
Outlaw, you would throw Stevie in the mix? What the hell are you thinking? I mean, sure, Tim Duncan is a great center, but how much better is this guy actually going to get? Meanwhile, Stevie has unbelievable potential and it's STILL HIS ROOKIE SEASON. You don't trade Francis away for anybody right now. That's why he's the Franchise. Not to mention trading away our entire bench, basically, as part of the package. I would like to have Duncan, but that is too much to pay. THE JAZZ SUCK. (That didn't have much to do with anything, but, let's face it, they DO suck.) ------------------ Jazzkiller
outlaw, I'm glad your BBS moniker is not CD. Mango ------------------ A Ranking Official in the Serious Police
Duncan is a much better commodity right now than Francis. I happen to think the center position is more important to winning than point guard. Look at the Lakers. Plus who knows if Stevie will stick around after 2003? M.J. might lure him home to D.C.
Straight up I would only trade Stevie for a few players, but one of them is definetely Duncan. The others would be Shaq or KG. Maybe Vince, but i'm not sure about Vince for Stevie. ------------------
I understand where you're coming from with the big man being extremely important. But don't underestimate the importance of a great point guard who can score at will. To quote Rudy, Francis' potential is "Unlimited." How can you argue with that? Duncan is very nice, but this is Francis' team. To trade him destroys what the Rockets seem to be trying to build this season. The Bulls never had a dominant big man, unless you consider Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, or Luc Longley dominant. And they turned out just fine. I'm not saying that Francis is going to be as good as MJ, but I am stressing that a big man is not NECESSARY to win championships. And as far as MJ luring Stevie to Washington, Stevie himself has even said that he envisions finishing his career in Houston, here where it started. THE JAZZ STILL SUCK. ------------------ Jazzkiller
Guys, Tim Duncan is a free agent at the end of this season. So we don't need to trade for sh**, unless we make a sign and trade, which we might need to do to stay within salary cap constraints (Duncan's gonna get the max). I would do what it takes to make this deal, absent Francis leaving (even Anderson is expendable if this is feasible).
And, as far as Vince goes, why are we so willing to pick up Vince Carter? That goes for the rest of the NBA fans. Sure, the guy can throw the rock down better than anyone, and he has unbelievable offensive game. But even his teammates are getting on him (Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis) for not getting back and playing defense. Vince Carter is not the complete player that everyone seems to think he is. He is a highlight film, one that I can liken to Dominique Wilkins. But he's not a true leader, and he is not going to take anyone to the promised land. BEAT UTAH. ------------------ Jazzkiller
"Guys,Tim Duncan is a free agent at the end of this season." Really? We had no idea. "Vince Carter is not the complete player that everyone seems to think he is" Neither is Francis. "The Bulls never had a dominant big man, unless you consider Will Perdue, Bill Wennington, or Luc Longley dominant. And they turned out just fine." And the Rockets and Spurs never had a dominant point guard unless you consider Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell and Avery Johnson dominant. And they turned out just fine. [This message has been edited by outlaw (edited April 07, 2000).]
