Would DaDakota ever fight in a war he advocated for?

Damn -- ease up, broseph. Our dude has the COVID and just got over pneumonia. Damn.

 

Hey, I'll back away, and you know I disagree w him on many fronts, ... but he has serious competition for "biggest racist POS on this site".

 

Dude what happened to you?

Is it the YouTubes?

Anyways dumb post. Race had nothing to do with that statement. Russia is a nuclear power with one of the most powerful militaries. That's what he means by "more important".

 

I’m confused what the complaint is here. He thinks we should directly confront Russia militarily, and you think that would be foolish. How does this relate to Afghanistan and race?

 

I very much disagree with DD's seeming rush for war but a lot of this kind of stuff is unfair and these type of arguments are unfair. I'm sure there are many issues where force is required that we all advocate yet we ourselves haven't gone to.

For example many supported pro-Democracy protests in Hong Kong. How many here actually went to Hong Kong to go and face tear gas and rubber bullets?

Besides whether it's hypocrisy or not it's simply not practical and could lead to many other problems if we just expected that people who stood on one side of an issue had to actually physically put their lives on the line for it. For another example. During the George Floyd protests I worked with my neighbors to protect my neighborhood from people trying to loot and burn it. I also volunteered for a group providing first aid to people injured. I will admit during those first few chaotic days I was angry about a lot of rhetoric I was seeing from people who didn't live in this neighborhood and from people who were either pressing for more violent LE responses and from people who were rationalizing and excusing the destruction. As someone in it though we didn't want more people to come here either because they were here to protests or for those who believed they were there to protect things. We didn't need a bunch of Kyle Rittenhouses running around here.

As a diverse and relatively open society people can express opinions on hot button issues. As humans we can also have sympathy and empathy for those in that situation. We can also do other things like donate to causes without putting our lives on the line. That's why even here on Clutchfans my challenge to those who I was debating about what happened in Minneapolis in the summer of 2020 wasn't to come here but to donate to help rebuild the city.

In the same way I think it's fair to ask DD to donate to Ukraine and also to groups helping wounded veterans because if we go to war in Ukraine there will be a lot more veterans with a lot more wounds.

 

I just see these kinds of personal attacks on anyone are not productive to the goal of having debate and discussion. I myself have been guilty of this kind of behavior but let's all admit that while we may disagree with one another, we can at least respect people and not attack them personally.

My debate with @DaDakota was never about attacking him but rather to get him to see the inconsistencies in his position. It's one thing to attack someone's position but entirely another to attack them personally which I think is a line we should all work to avoid crossing.

 

Really?

Let’s help him out and send him a V Span basketball card saying Get well t-Mac of Europe !
@J.R.

 

@LosPollosHermanos and @DaDakota are beefing hard.

 

So another 20 years? 30 years? How much longer before we fix a government where half the their military salary budget is going to imaginary people?

Talk to me when we spend 20 years in Ukraine.

This has nothing to do with racism. You are out of line.

 

DaDakota posted something racist, but I don't think he understands it himself. He thinks of himself as having some moral high ground from railing against Republicans, but he is actually fighting his own demons. Overcompensating.

That said, I will correct myself: I don't think DaDakota is a racist. He is a good guy who sometimes posts silly stuff.

 

@DaDakota
Get well my friend. Get some terry blacks bbq, it cures all

 

I don't think a single poster on this message board besides actual racists cares about your opinion on who's racist and who isn't.

 

I don't think this is remotely true. They have been exposed. Pretty sure they would be food for almost any NATO power.

The accusations of racism are off base because he is willing to sacrifice the tens of thousands of white Ukrainians to get more XP on the russian military. I think he views their life as equal to the million dead iraqis but these deaths are hurting russia. "more important"

I think this all boils down to the Red Scare tactics the media/dems have been pushing for the last 6 years.

 

A nuclear state invaded another sovereign nation. You don't need "red scare" tactics to be sincerely worried about the situation.


Anyways "red scare" tactics refer to wealthy conservative elites spreading the fear of communism from south American nations rising up against US companies invading their lands and extracting resources while returning the vast majority of the profits back to the US labeling any opposition to that as "communism" while also labeling any progressive criticism of conservative religious theocracy invading our government as "cultural Marxism". It was a deeply ideological battle.

The people advocating for intervention with Putin often are coming from multiple ideological spectrums because many people with different ideologies see major red flags when a nuclear power invaded a bordering nation right next to allied trade partners.

 

With regard to dealing with Russia, it's very difficult. I would want to call Putin's bluff, but who knows what he will do if he really has nothing to lose.

I can neither blame people who say "call their bluff and step in" - because when you see the war crimes Putin is committing, it's hard to not want to step in - nor can I blame those who say "no, don't risk world war III".

I don't think either position makes you a racist or a bad person.

 

The media has been hyping Russia as evil empire harder than Reagan ever did. So many things have been blamed on Russia that clearly have nothing to do with Russia. The reality is Russia is a shithole country with a crap military and nonexistent economy. I seriously doubt their nukes still work at this point. They have a clearly stated a position they will only be used to defend an invasion.

Many leftists that have wanted to defund the military to nothing are now so revved up to start WWIII because of this years long propaganda campaign. Putin has been touted as some former intelligence officer genius but in reality is an inbred moron destroying his country. The real racism is if Russians were largely brown or asian no one would be scared of them.

The people in the Ukraine paying for this with huge suffering is a tragedy. The human suffering is hard to take and I think much of it is from political battles in the US.