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Would anyone else be happy with Zach Randolph as our starting 4?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Drexlerfan22, Jan 4, 2003.

  1. Drexlerfan22

    Drexlerfan22 Member

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    I would trade Eddie Griffin for him. Sure, Eddie has a ton of upside, but Zach is young (21) and has size (6-9, 260 and athletic). He can score in the post, has a feathery touch out to 18 feet, and he's a better rebounder than Eddie. He seems like he's perfect for us. Thoughts? (note: we would also have to take Chris Dudley and Charles Smith for it to work cap-wise, and hey, Charles is a true shooting guard. They are both in the final years of their contracts anyway, so we'd be dumping salary)

    Here are their profiles:
    Zach:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3531
    Eddie:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3517
    Charles:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3194
     
  2. Yetti

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    No trades except when we greatly improve ourselves! ie:- Moochie and Taylor for Brand.
     
  3. Drexlerfan22

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    I'm pretty sure this would greatly improve us. We would have a consistent, no-doubt starter who is a versatile scorer and a better rebounder than Eddie. He's also big enough to play bodyguard for Ming.

    I think Portland would do it because they could use someone more versatile off the bench. Pippen will retire before Rasheed Wallace does, so they could use Eddie at small forward just as much as they use him at power forward, unlike us.
     
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    I would really hate to give up Eddie unless it was for a great player. Because for 1 we gave up 3 1st round picks for him and also because he is only 20 years old and I think he will be a great player himself... And he has been in the Rockets system for a while now so he doesn't have to learn that aspect.
     
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    1. Who cares how many first round picks we gave up for Eddie as long as we get someone that improves our 4 spot.

    2. It is easy to learn how to play in the Rockets system. Just stand around and watch Stevie Franchise dribble, dribble, dribble until he is triple teamed and turns the ball over or takes a last second wild as crazy shot. Intelligence is ignored in the Rockets offense.

    3. Why stop with trading Eddie Griffin when we can trade the whole lot of bone headed, non-thinking, unintelligent, non-team oriented group of players on the team. I guess that includes just about everyone but Yao Ming.
     
  6. Sherlock

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    I think Posey for Randalph would be a better trade for both teams, and they were both picked in a similar spot. Posey actually has more trade value right now than Eddie, although they would have to wait until Posey's trade restrictions are over. He would be a great replacement for Scottie Pippen, and better meet their needs, since I'm sure they don't want to resign him.

    Eddie would not do well in Portland, where they stack up their talent and let them rot on the bench. Look what happened to Jermaine Oneal. I would rather keep Griffin and let him develop than trade him when his value is low. That would be very stupid.

    But, Randolph is cheap for Portland, and an up and coming talent. Why would they trade him for anyone, unless they were meeting a specific need, and getting someone else they believed was coming into their own earlier, perhaps like Posey.
     
  7. xiki

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    Randolph is worth more PT from Po'land, and I like the guy. As a player.

    ZR had trouble in college, has had troubles in Po'land, so NO to giving up Eddie for him. Besides Eddie is better and has better upside, too.
     
  8. thumbs

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    Randolph has talent, no doubt. Acquiring Randolph or Troy Murphy (as I suggested last summer and got some hoots) would not be prudent at this time because those changes would cause a PF glut again -- this time with TWO developing PFs and one re-establishing his game. No, IMO the Rockets are better off with the status quo.
     
  9. Drexlerfan22

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    Actually, Murphy was the other guy I was thinking of, but I couldn't see a trade which was both reasonable and that worked under salary rules for him.

    I was originally suggesting Eddie for Zach so there would be no new glut at power forward, but if we traded Posey for him as Sherlock suggests, maybe something like this would work...

    Houston Trades:
    James Posey
    Eddie Griffin

    Houston Receives:
    Zach Randolph
    Antonio Daniels or Jeff McInnis

    Whether we receive Daniels or McInnis, it works under salary cap restrictions. Portland can easily afford to give either one of them up, because they are already using Pippen and Anderson at point, and Damon Stoudamire is getting NO minutes at all. I'm guessing they'd be okay with having four legit points instead of five (Daniels is averaging only 11.8 minutes, McInnis 16.2). Thoughts?
     
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    Randolph is VERY popular in Portland.

    For a team who, just about every other player is hated by their fans, the chances of him being traded are between zero and none.
     
  11. Pat

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    RealGM has an article about the Hawks trading Jason Terry. One of the suitors is Portland. The article says "they tried every combination that did not include Wallace or Randolph". Obviously they think a lot of him. I'm in agreement with SRJ, Portland will not let him go, especially for an untested kid..
     
  12. leebigez

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    One of the reason Portland wouldn't trade Randolph right now is the conbinations that they can run with him on the court. Randolph is the true low post grit player with skill who the blazers have been missing since? Its similar to the same thing Phoe has with Amare. True that Zach hasn't been dunking on people and stuff like that, but given the opportunity that he has now, he's now taking his part into their rotation. With randolph in the lineup, Wallace can move to the 3 spot, which he seems more confortable anyway. I think its pretty clear now that wallace will never be a 20-10 type of 4, but what he can do is similar to what Dirk does and that is shooting over smaller players. Wallace at the 3 and Randolph at the 4 gives Portland rebounding and dual low post threats and actuall another with Bonzi wells. Wallace shooting touch from behind the arc is good enough that when Randolph is scoring on the blks, if a team collapses, he can make them pay. Randolph is the backup play to Pippen leaving after this yr. If that happens, Wallace would move to the 3 spot and Zach to the 4. I would like to have him as do alot of teams, but I think its pretty safe to say that you don't want to send a guy to a team you have to play 4 times a yr.
     

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