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World War III

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, May 6, 2006.

  1. rimrocker

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    Just what the world wants to hear as this kind of rhetoric is sure to ease tensions with Iran... this man is insane and if we're not careful, we're all going down with him...

     
  2. KingCheetah

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    "I believe that. I believe that it was the first counter-attack to World War III."
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    Of the many dumb things Bush has said over his career this is one of the worst.
     
  3. Kam

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    That president of ours.

    That's kinda stupid.
     
  4. jo mama

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  5. Doctor Robert

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    The two world wars took place on every continent except Antartica.... nope, not WWIII.

    The two world wars were fought on the ground, in the sea, and in the air.... nope, not WWIII.

    The two world wars were Total War, or where countries utilize all of their resources to destroy another.... nope, not WWIII.

    The first world war affected 36 nations, the second affected 62.... nope, not WWIII.

    The world wars killed 65 million people.... nope, not WWIII.

    Last, but not least, I don't believe the United States Congress has declared war.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Uh,

    Neither world war was fought in or on the Americas.......

    But your point is still taken !!


    And, if this is WW3, we need to start bombing some people....let's start with all those people with Oil in the middle east.

    Wait, what? we are already doing that?????

    Dang...I am late as usual.

    DD
     
  7. rimrocker

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    Aleutian Islands. U Boats.

    Japanese also tried to start forest fires in OR and WA if I recall. Probably others.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Just wishful thinking on Bush's part. He wishes he could be a great 'war time' president in a huge great war, where he lead the good armies to defeat the bad armies.

    Just like his cowboy ranch image, he is creating the reality he wants instead of what really is.
     
  9. user

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    Oh crap, the American is dragging the rest of the world into World War III. We are damned. :(
     
  10. Dubious

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    It's not too much of a stretch to think that Islamic terrorist (or freedom fighters depending on your point of view) are taking their guerella war to the rest of the world. They are in Russian protectorates, Western China, the African continent, Europe of course, Indonesia, Austrailia (I think).

    So if his criteria is a war that encompases the planet rather than just the borders of the conflicting countries then he's not wrong.
     
  11. Deckard

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    George W. Bush is demented. What he said was an insult to surviving WWII vets, who sure as hell know what a real world war is. That our President would say such a kudicrous thing is frightening. I'm seriously concerned about the man's mental faculties. Surely, he hasn't fallen off the wagon??



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  12. Grizzled

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    I think most people around the world who have been following what’s been going on in the US at all know that Bush and this administration are lame ducks that no longer represent the American public. This administration has mislead the US public in perhaps the most serious such incident in recent world history. (The other that springs to mind is the phantom attack on the US ship by the North Vietnamese that was used as a justification to attack them, thus expanding the Vietnam war). It has been revealed to be rife with incompetence and corruption and I think it is capable of any diversionary tactic to try to deflect attention away from its problems. It seem almost bassoesque in the nature of the deceit and diversionary rhetoric its key people are prepared to use. This seems to be a neocon thing.

    This doesn’t mean that other countries won’t take advantage of the power vacuum that exist at the head of the US government now, however. Russia, Iran, and China have all taken positions in recent year which I’m sure were designed to take advantage of the situation and increase their world power relative to the US, but no one in their right mind believes that Bush represents the US in anything but name only anymore. We’ll have to wait until the next election to find out what America stands for now.
     
  13. Ottomaton

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    Also...

    The Graf Spee and the Battle of the River Plate

    They just salvaged the Graf Spee a year or so ago.

    The Germans also used quite a few "Auxiliary Cruisers" which were commerce raiders after the Graf Spee was sunk all up and down the Brazilian coast. Brazil was a major supplier of goods to France and Britain.
     
  14. glynch

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    What is the moron doing?

    1) He thinks his drug addicted ass will be raptured and he is seeking Armageddon.

    2) He thought WW II movies were cool and has delusion of grandeur of himself as a WAR PRESIDENT.

    3) This rhetoric will make the dittos stop deserting him as he slowly loses support among even those who feel the Bible requires them to vote for him.

    4) He is speculating on the price of oil and gold and hopes to make a killing on the market by scaring the world economy.

    5) He is just that dumb; knows nothing about WW II and is just reacting openly thinking he is making an intelligent remark.

    What?
     
  15. Grizzled

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    Not to get too far off topic, but Halifax was the major harbour for assembling convoys to cross the Atlantic in WWII, and there were lots of reports of German U-boats in the area and spies in the city. There were only a few documented attacks in Canadian waters. Not that long ago they also found a camp on a remote part of Newfoundland, I think it was, that they believe was an attempt at establishing some kind of radio base by the Germans in WWII. I couldn’t find a link for that though.

    “Two significant attacks took place in 1942 when German U-boats attacked four allied ore carriers at Bell Island, Newfoundland. The carriers S.S. Saganaga and the S.S. Lord Strathcona were sunk by U-513 on September 5, 1942, while the S.S. Rosecastle and P.L.M 27 were sunk by U-518 on November 2 with the loss of 69 lives. When the submarine fired a torpedo at the loading pier, Bell Island became the only location in North America to be subject to direct attack by German forces in World War II.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-boat
     
  16. basso

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    You need to go back and read Wouk's article. i'm guessing most WWII vets don't feel this way.
     
  17. Grizzled

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    I’m guessing they do. I don’t think they’d be too happy with someone who lied to the American public about the need for this war and sent 2,500 American soldiers to die needlessly for the sake of the political ambitions of a select group in the Republican party. This has to be one of the grossest abuses of the American military ever.
     
  18. basso

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    why don't we poll the military and find out? i have a feeling they see things differently.
     
  19. mc mark

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    Well, there was a poll recently that put forth that 70% of the military wants to end the war by the end of the year.
     
  20. Doctor Robert

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    Please elaborate, so this doesn't turn into a shouting match. I think he is implying that the current situation is so different from WWII that surviving veterans of that war would be offended at the comparison. Doesn't seem that far fetched, except that supporters of the military generally support Bush and he can't do much wrong in their opinion. Had the words come from someone else, it would be a big deal.

    I don't care so much about that anyway. The implications of the comments are a lot more interesting and revealing. It is a pretty heavy-duty comparison to just be throwing around without any real thought or intentions behind it. Regarding glynch's comments, I think it is mostly a lack of persepective. It may feel like WWIII in the press room and the oval office, but he has lost all perspective. I also don't think there is much critical or academic thought going on about anything in the White House.
     

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