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WNBA “players” are the female firefighters of pro sports

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by TheReasonSF3, Jul 31, 2002.

  1. TheReasonSF3

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    Here is a great article on the WNBA that I found while surfing the net. It is a couple of years old, but it is a brilliant article.

     
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    TRSF3, I'm not willing to read the article. Can you provide a 100-word abstract? :)
     
  3. Mrs. JB

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    The author of that article, Debbie Schussel, is not a sports writer, but a conservative commentator with a personal aversion to female athletes. In other columns, she has questioned whether WNBA players are really women and called the league sick, a waste of time and a haven for lesbians.

    Perhaps Ms. Schussel was raised in a world where "ladies" don't participate in sports -- I really can't understand where she is coming from nor do I care. Female sports are only going to become more popular in the future as the athletic girls of this generation get older and demand to see more. My advice is if you don't like it, don't watch.
     
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    Okay Juan. It's mostly about how the WNBA is a joke, they suck athletically, they can't draw in fans, and it isn't really a real pro sport, cause it sucks. She also talked about how her little brothers high school team could beat any WNBA team. She also said that the WNBA players practice against old high school players in like there 40s, and lose to them. You should read the whole article. It is really good. I know that the woman writing it isn't a sports writer, but I agree with everything she said in that article. The only time I'd ever watch the WNBA would be if Sue Bird is playing. She is hot. Most of the other WNBA players are lesbians that look like men and have huge muscles.
     
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    Debbie is like 4'10 or so. She's really short and really hates the WNBA. I would chalk it up to jealousy. She and Cynthia Cooper almost came to blows on Politically Incorrect.

    ReasonSF3 - it's good enough for Steve, Cuttino and Moochie to be regualrs at Comets games.
     
  6. Mrs. JB

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    And this matters because...? If you want a sex show, watch the Spice channel. Some people enjoy watching female athletes be athletic irregardless of how they look.
     
  7. TheReasonSF3

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    I don't want a sex show. It's just that most of those women are scary looking. I'd rather watch ugly women play basketball that aren't muscle women, then see ugly women that are gigantic.
     
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    So you're complaining that the women don't compete at a level that is close to the men, but you DON'T want them to be muscular either? Quite a paradox there.
     
  9. TheReasonSF3

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    Yeah it kinda is. I mean I don't like to watch women that suck. If they are musular or not muscular they still can't compete against men. That is the main reason why I don't watch it. It doesn't make a difference if a women is 6'0' and is skinny or 6'0 tall and is all muscle, they still can't compete against high school boys.
     
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    Honestly, I couldn't care less about the WNBA. I do, however, have a problem with the practice of lowered physical standards for occupations that directly affect public safety (police, fire, military).
     
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    I always thought the WNBA was a vehicle to get women interested in pro basketball, and eventually become NBA fans. Even if the WNBA loses money, as long as more women become fans then the net effect is positive.
     
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    I think the key with women's sports is that they're NOT competing against men. They're competing against each other. Men and women are physically different, we all know that. To expect women to compete against men in the NBA (which has a 50 year head start, by the way) is absurd. Hell, even male professional players from China are no match for the NBA. Again, if you don't like it, don't watch.

    I've been to Comets games and the seats are filled with excited young girls getting their first glimpse of professional female athletes. I see no reason to take that away from them.
     
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    I know that they can't compete with men. That's why I don't watch it. I know other pro leagues can't compete with the NBA. That's why I don't watch those leagues also.
     
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    The lady loses all credibility when she says things like her brother's high school team could beat any WNBA team. Also she talks about how WNBA teams get 8 fouls per half while the NBA gets 5. She neglects to mention that the NBA is 5 per quarter. She also implies that the WNBA is more boring because they have a 30 second shot clock as opposed to the 24 second shot clock in the NBA. That must mean that college basketball is boring becuase their shot clock is either 30 or 35 seconds. That type of reporting makes her look uneducated to the rules of the game.

    She also implies that feminists are going to force pro sports owners to have more women's pro sports. It's been 3 years since her article and that has yet to happen.

    There is nothing wrong with the WNBA. It is not preventing anyone from doing anything. If you don't like it, don't watch it. My tax dollars aren't funding it. No NBA player is out of a job due to the WNBA. It is a ridiculous article.
     
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    I always thought the WNBA was a vehicle to get women interested in pro basketball, and eventually become NBA fans. Even if the WNBA loses money, as long as more women become fans then the net effect is positive.

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    I've been to Comets games and the seats are filled with excited young girls getting their first glimpse of professional female athletes. I see no reason to take that away from them.

    Agreed. I cannot comprehend the hostility toward the WNBA and women's sports in general. I've never felt that I, as a 27 year old male, was part of the target demographic. It's been said before, but bears repeating, nobody is being forced to watch so why get so angry about it & feel the need to denigrate it mercilessly?.
     
  16. Jeff

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    I think wrestling is the most ridiculous pile of crap ever. I think boxing is a waste of time. Hockey? What's that? Baseball even causes me to sleep uncontrollably. So what?

    I don't hear women complaining that John Stockton was too ugly or Oliver Miller was too fat for them to watch. Why the hell should we be any different?

    This is like saying chess should be banned because I'm not smart enough to figure it out. :rolleyes:
     
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    Well it's the same thing with music, tv shows, or anything else -- no one is being forced to listen to 'Band X', so why talk about how much they suck? It is a product that is on the air, so it is open to critique. You could say to some "no one is forcing you to read this woman's article, so why criticize it? Why not go to another thread?" Same thing.
     
  18. Roc Paint

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    Well said once again Jeff.
     
  19. Jeff

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    I agree with music 100%. However, this thread is a bad example. The article was put here to provoke discussion and debate. That is what this forum is all about.

    Besides, saying we don't like "Band X" isn't the same as saying, "They should be put out of business."
     
  20. Tenchi

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    Im pretty sure female soccer players could play with male soccer players tho. I dont know what it has to do with this but soccer rules.
     

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