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Wireless network help?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Hippieloser, Aug 10, 2005.

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  1. Hippieloser

    Hippieloser Member

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    Ok, so I'm trying to connect my laptop to the wireless network at my parents' house. Actually, I already appear to be connected but internet apps like Firefox, AIM, etc aren't working.

    My computer says that my D-Link card is enabled and working properly. Its wireless network connection status is "Connected" and the signal strength is "Very Good." The network icon on the startup bar is flashing normally as if I'm connected and everything is working properly.

    However, I can't connect to the internet. It's the same wireless connection that I'm using on my parents' computer to access the net right now, so I know the network is working.

    When I go into "Network Connections" and right click on the enabled connection and click "Repair," I get a window back that says "The following steps of the repair operation failed: Renewing the IP address. Please contact your network administrator or ISP."

    I know it's possible to hook up laptops to this network without any passwords or anything because I did it with my Apple work computer a few weeks ago. The laptop I'm using now is a pc, though.

    Also of possible interest: In my Network Connections folder, I also have a "Roadrunner" connection disabled. It's leftover from the last time I used this machine on the internet, before I had any wireless connections.

    Any suggestions on how I can get the internet working on this laptop?
     
  2. langal

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    Can you see the other computers on the network?

    Go to the MS-DOS prompt and type ipconfig. It should tell you some stuff like if your computer has a local ip number. You may also want to try "ping 192.168.0.1".

    I configured my wireless router to only allow access to certain computers (MAC addresses). Restricted computers still say "connected to blahblahblah" but the router restricts any internet access, etc.
     
  3. FrancisFan

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    Pinging 192.168.0.1 will only ping the router (I'm assuming your intention) if that is the router's ip, that's Netgears' by default, but Linksys uses 192.168.1.1.

    MAC address filtering shouldn't allow a computer to connect to the router...

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    Go to command prompt (Start -> Run -> "cmd" -> [ok]) type in "nslookup google.com" [enter]. If it doesn't return google's ip.... type "ipconfig" what's your ip address, subnet, gateway, or does it return nothing.......
     
  4. Hippieloser

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    Ok, I typed in ipconfig and got this:

    Ethernet adaptor Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS suffix . :
    Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.118.56
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ?
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . .. :

    Thanks for the help, guys... next step?
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The IP address shows your are definitely NOT connected to the router. THe address should be something like 192.168.XX.XX. You probably need to get into the router to see how it is set up. You should go on your folk's computer and bring up IE. Use the URL of http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1. One of those should get you into the router. It may ask for a username/password. The username is generally admin and the password is usually password (by default). From there you should be able to root around and determine if other computers are allowed access.
     
  6. Hippieloser

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    Ok, I went to http://192.168.1.1 but the "admin/password" trick didn't work. I suspect, however, that there isn't anything blocking access to the router because I was able to connect to it with my Mac no problem without any passwords and my dad routinely hooks up his laptop as well. I don't think he's adept enough with computers to block anyone's access to the router... I'm amazed he was able to get the thing running.

    Anyways, thanks again... anything else I can try?
     
  7. Hippieloser

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    Oh, and if it helps, I know that it is a linksys network...
     
  8. langal

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    You're right.. It's just that I've seen times when the computer says it's connected to my NETGEAR in the little taskbar even though it wasn't (can't ping).
     
  9. FrancisFan

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    Linksys uses 192.168.1.1 as default... when you type that into the address bar that doesn't bring up a user/pw prompt? Default is user == blank (nothing at all) and password == admin, but all that is from a connected computer...

    My random guess (based on no ip addy) is that you are having troubles getting a dynamic IP so just take a static IP:
    On the laptop go to Network Connections (Start -> Control Panel -> ["switch classic view in left panel"] -> Network Connections -> Whatever Wireless Connection -> Select "TCP/IP" -> Properties -> Use the following IP -> 192.168.1.110 -> subnet "255.255.255.0" -> gateway "192.168.1.1" -> Use DNS -> 192.168.1.1
     
  10. chow_yun_fat

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    You probally have to add the mac address in the router.
     
  11. Hippieloser

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    Ok, I did this. My Network Connection Details now include all of this information. However, entering ipconfig in the DOS prompt still returns a "?" for an IP address. I still can't access the internet.

    Additionally, now when I right-click the wireless network icon on my startup bar and click "Repair," I am told "The Repair operation completed. If the problem persists, please contact blah blah." That's new.

    Thanks for the help, await further guesses...
     
  12. Hippieloser

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    I'm not using a Mac. I connected a Mac to this router no problem a couple weeks ago, though.
     
  13. arkoe

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    Try resetting your router (just unplug the power, let it sit for 20 seconds and then plug it back in) and then repairing the connection on the laptop. I don't know why, but sometimes my computer refuses to connect to my router unless I do this.

    Your computer has a MAC address, which is also called your "physical" address. They're not just for Macs. You can read more about it here.
     
  14. Hippieloser

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    Ha ha, I'm an idiot. Sorry 'bout that, chow.

    EDIT: Turning off the router and turning it back on didn't work. This sucks!
     
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    did you get this working?

    another thing I like to try is.

    from a cmd prompt.

    type the following commands *ignore the [brackets]

    ipconfig [tells you what you IP is]
    ipconfig /release
    ipconfig /renew [tells your machine to look for a new IP]

    * you may also want to open your DLink card.. w. my laptop it remembers the last wireless network I was on. You could try looking at your wireless card and search for your parents wireless network. Then double click on it to try and connect.

    J
     
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    Ok, for both these I got "The operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissible for this operation."

    As I was looking for the DLink software on my computer, I realized it wasn't there! It must have been deleted somehow... weird. BUT! Rooting around at my parents house I found what appears to be the disc that came with the DLink Air card AND the disc that I believe came with the router. Any chance popping these b****es in will solve all my problems?
     
  17. Hippieloser

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    Ok, I reinstalled the DLink software. Nothing changed. I'm gonna see what happens when I put in the router cd now.

    EDIT: Ok, I couldn't figure out how to make the router cd useful. Back to square one. *******, this is frustrating!
     
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    make sure there's no VPN network. and good luck. i spent a good like 2 nights trying to get mine to work last week.

    Maybe call technical support..and with a lot of luck it'll work.
     
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  19. chow_yun_fat

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    This is what you do.
    Start menu > run
    Type cmd, hit enter
    Type ipconfig /all
    Look for ethernet adapter wireless connection
    Physical Address = aa:bb:cc:dd:ee "something simliar" this is your mac address
    Go to your router and add in the mac address. If you dont know how..I'll guide you through it.
     
  20. Svpernaut

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    Your parents wireless network could have a security key required to connect... this is actually a more popular option then the MAC address because after the intial setup you don't have to add anything else to the router, you just have to enter in the secure key to gain access with each computer you try to connect. A lot of the ISPs are now sending out the DSL/Cable routers bundled into a wireless router, and these wireless routers already have a pre-generated key for you that is usually on the back of the routher on a sticker.
     

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