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Will Yao be considered a selfish player if he had taken more shots?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fa7999, Nov 14, 2004.

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Should Yao have taken more shots in the last two games?

Poll closed Nov 22, 2004.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Not sure

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  1. fa7999

    fa7999 Member

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    There are some fans arguing that Yao is becoming a selfish player by taking too many shots and padding his stats. I am a little upset and actually want to see him take more shots in situation like the last two games.

    What's your take on this?

    Personally I would not mind him taking 30 shots last game when he was hot and none his his teammates could hit anything!
     
  2. longrangesniper

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    If he was shooting 35% yes, hes being selfish, but he was shooting a good % so no it isn't selfish because every point he scores is helping the team.
     
  3. DavidS

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    Yao is getting 12.9 attempts per game, and making a bit more than last year. His scoring average is 19.2PPG. Now these averages mean very little this early in the season. But selfishness or not isn't the problem. The problem has always been GETTING HIM THE BALL in the first place.

    The window of opportunity (or timing) it takes for him to get the ball is a skill within itself. Our role players that dump it down to him have to work very hard to figure out this timing. Yao is not Shaq or Hakeem where our role players can just lob it up there for him to grab. It's too easy to front Yao. This was never a problem with Hakeem or Shaq. They were physical monsters. Yao is the gentle giant.
     
  4. DavidS

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    By the way fa7999...

    Your *thread title* and *thread poll question* is contradictory.

    I'll answer them individually...

    1) Will Yao be considered a selfish player if he had taken more shots? - > No. Not selfish. Most would welcome him taking more shots.

    2) Should Yao have taken more shots in the last two games? - > Sure, if we could get him the ball more or if he didn't get into foul trouble.
     
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    Getting Shaq ball isn't that easy in Miami. I think Zone makes center's game a lot harder.

    Kobe was the best in getting Shaq the ball. Phil Jackson even admitted it in his book.
     
  6. RocketForever

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    I agree. I voted 'no' to the thread title "Will Yao be considered a selfish player if he had taken more shots?". Then I found out the question of the poll is actually "Should Yao have taken more shots in the last two games?". It's very misleading.
     
  7. fa7999

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    Sorry, my bad.

    I was really thinking whether he should have taken more shots in the last two games and not regarded as selfish.

    The last game really pissed me off. Except for Yao, no one else was able to buy a basket. In such situation, I would not mind if he had taken 20 more shots if it does not tire him out.
     
  8. wireonfire

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    JVG: "Yao is truly selfless. He is the ultimate teammate."

    Mike Dunleany: "They didn't teach him(Yao) the word of stats in China."
     
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    I have never heard nor do I ever think I'll hear about anyone complaining that Yao is becoming selfish. Who the hell is saying that? I find it hard to believe that anyone would honestly think that. He is far too unselfish. If he were more selfish and aggressive I believe we would have won the last two games.
     
  10. munco

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    Holy misleading thread.:confused:

    I voted "no" assuming that the poll question matched the thread title. Very tricky thread.

    I vote No to the thread title
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    I vote Yes to the actual poll question.
     
  11. gotoloveit2

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    A definitely SAM-fish's player if Yao takes more shot like SF.:D
     
  12. SamFisher

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    definitely! I would literally sing his praises in that instance.

    I finally found the love of a lifetime

    A love to last my whole life through

    I finally found the love of a lifetime

    Forever in my heart, I finally found the love of a lifetime
     
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    Zone-D would be a problem even with Hakeem or
    Shaq.
     
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    just ask dream about playing against seattle in the early to mid 90s.
     
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    Your love for me is UNDENIABLE. Only wish you could have responded faster than 7 minutes.
     
  16. daoshi

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    I don't know what everyone else will think if Yao does shoot more. I guess it all depends on the situation. My observation is that 90% of the time, Yao has been playing the right way, namely, pass for the better shot. Occasionally, he forced a couple shots here or there, or gave up shots too easily. Many people here want Yao to shoot more even with double coverage, that's just ridiculers. When you play organized bball, the first thing coach will teach is that a good offense should always work to get the best shot. An open shot is a better shot than shoot over a defender. If the shooter misses, then so be it. Otherwise, you are play 4 vs 5, or 3 vs 5, there is no way you can win a bball that way.

    As someone mentioned earlier, our major problem is to get the ball to Yao at the right time. Shaq had Bryant because he was a threat himself, so the defender had to hornor every of his moves, which made the passing much easier for him; the same goes with TMac. We have no one else can effectively feed Yao consistently because they are just not talent enough. It's much easy to defend when people know the only thing you can do is pass, or shoot.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Yao has two years of Grace left . . .welll only one

    Rocket River
     
  18. DavidS

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    Every opppoent does NOT use the zone. All an opppoent needs is a quick, long center to front Yao, and that's it. It becomes a problem. Zone or no zone. Shaq or Hakeem could still *get* the ball relatively easy against those guys. It's what they do with the ball afterwards that determines whether it was a good play or not. But that's not Yao's problem. It's *getting* the ball against quick, long, athletic centers/fowards. That's the problem.

    Sure, I'll ask him...he would answer with, 30, 35, 40, 50 point performances...even against Seattle. If all teams played like Seattle in the 90's Yao would strulggle mightily. At least Hakeem could score 50 on Seattle even with their trap defense, athleticism, and double teams. The difference is the physical ability of one player over another. That's undeniable. And that's was my point. Zone has some effect. But lets not use it as excuse.
     
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