Will winning a championship change the way the Refs treat Yao?

Shaq's been complaining about the refs for a long while, so I don't know if getting treated like Shaq will be any better.

Basically, if you're big and you're slow the officiating will tend to not favor you. Yao needs to make up for his lack of physical quickness by being quicker mentally. That will at least reduce the questionable fouls.

As for the punishment he takes in the paint, that's just part of the job of being a dominant big man. Shaq goes through it, and Hakeem went through it. Wilt went through it. That's never going to change.

 

no, because without changing the way Refs treat Yao, Yao will never win a championship.

 

Not just Yao, McGrady too.

I think we can still win even with the ref's against us like they were in 2005.

 

If I recall correctly, Shaq sent the NCAA a video of all the "bad calls" that he got in his freshman season at LSU.

I could be wrong, but I think the 'Shaq' treatment started there. I know I hated when UK played LSU during those years because he could do no wrong all the while hacking at everyone in sight. Used to tick me off.

Of course, I was like 13 at the time so I couldn't cuss at the television then!

Hopping back on topic... It seems like the only time Yao got any respect was the few games after JVG got fined. Why that is I have no idea but I don't know that a playoff victory will make a difference

 

first off, please dont even mention Shaq, OK? do u even watch any Heat games? the guy gets robbed almost every single time. people hack Shaq to the left and to the right, and booml; no call. he is probably the only guy that gets called for over-the-back rebounds more than Chuck Hayes (lol, Chuck Hayes get robbed too every single time ). all people have to do to stop Shaq is flop and get the calls. they always get him for B.S offensive fouls for "lowering his shoulder", but in reality, most of these calls are B.S and are a result of the defensive player being such a great flopper and Shaq being so freakin strong. I defend this guy because I have so much respect for him and he is definately a top 5 center of all time.. I respect him because he is one of few people who admit that Hakeem is the greatest and he publically said that Hakeem schooled him.

back to Yao, I am absolutely with Y'all on this one. Yao gets called for B.S calls almost 4 times a game. either an offensive foul, a travel, or a 3 secs (boy do I hate these). but I found out that it's not about Yao personally, it's about the Rockets as a team. it seems like all the refs hate Htown and always help the opposing team. this trend is present since Hakeem's days. but it's not gonna change, and we will have to follow Hakeem's way (the hard way) and win championship after championship despite all their hate. Hakeem sets a great example for us; he endured all the refs B.S and he carried the team BY HIMSELF to 2 back2back championships. I certainly dont want Yao to go through all that stuff, but I think we should have the mind set that we are gonna go out and beat the other team despite all the B.S from officials.

I just want to make a little point here; I think Yao gets robbed by officials, but we seem to kinda overrate it as Rockets fans. I think there are 2 calls that the officials call frequently and that are absolutely right. one is the offensive foul called frequently on that quick baseline spin move where he actually hooks the defender with his off arm; the contact might be minimal, but this call is 100% true, except that they dont call it consistently on everybody and that's why it seems a little weird. the other call that is true is the one that pisses off most of us; the defensive foul. Yao always gets called for people "leaning into him" and drawing the foul while he is "standing with his arms straight up". well, this call is 100% right because he is in the semi-circle, and any contact in that area is an automatic defensive foul. and it's a really stupid idea to have the 7'6 big guy try to "take the charge" or "stay away" instead of blocking it. it's not Yao's fault though, it's the fault of whoever is teaching him (probably Tibs & Ewing).

however, I've noticed that Yao has made a huge improvement to prevent these calls this season, which is IMO the reason behind his great impressive MVP-like season. Yao doesn't hook the defender anymore when doing the quick turnaround, and if the defender catches up, Yao changes direction or shoots one of his automatic baseline shots instead of going all the way to the basket and hooking the defender/ getting blocked. the other area Yao has made the greatest improvement in is his defense. if y'all noticed, he doesn't "stand with his hands straight up" (which caused the reputation of Yao being a wussy) anymore. instead, he goes for the block and he utilizes his height to avoid contact but yet change the shot at the same time. I dont know how he did this; it's either he worked his a$$ off this summer, or that firing Ewing did wonders to Yao.

btw, I disgaree w/ JVG on a lot of stuff, but I give him total respect because of his courage to go out and defend Yao even if that meant he will get fined. I really like the fact that he is standing for his big center and hopefully this will help Yao in the long run...

 

I see the other side where the refs are only calling about 20% of the fouls committed by other players trying to guard Yao Ming.

 

That's a good rule of thumb for any basketball team.

 

Maybe Yao need to send video clips of all these fouls to Stern...

 

Sorry is a perimeter league now not big-men league.

The referees will only call an obvious foul on big men nowadays, it doest matter you are Yao or Shaq or Shawn Bradley. The defenders are allowed to push, scratch and hack any centers this day!

 

Tracy already gets the superstar treatment. Winning a championship would definitely change the way officials see Yao.

 

I agree with you about Shaq, but you got to remember he wasnt always officiated the way he is now.As far as Yao my problem is not the traveling/offensive foul calls, its the non calls.He gets hacked almost every time and they continue to do it because they can get away with it.In my opinion they shouldnt even be considered superstar calls.They are calls that any player should get because they are so obvious.

 

Only problem with Yao is he doesn't get calls. The fouls he commit are correct, but he's correcting that by not jumping to contest every shot. At 7'6" he can alter shots just by raising his arms up. But on defense he rarely gets the call. Everybody slaps down hard on his wrists, push him off when he goes for a shot, and climb his back when he goes to rebound, and only 5-10% gets called. I don't expect them to get every single call, but I know Yao could get at least 12-15 free throws if they call half the fouls.

 

Forget Shaq, I want Yao to get the D-Wade treatment. That right there is the stuff of legend.

 

The whole world will...

 

Shaq is different from Yao. They let him get manhandled because they allowed him to manhandle the opposing team's players, too. His signature move was "drop the shoulder, ram, ram, dunk".

Yao plays with more finesse like Tim Duncan and Dirk. He should get the same calls as Duncan and Dirk. Duncan never gets called for going over the back of a player for a rebound. When another player tries to push him with 2 hands, the refs call it.

 

do you really believe that? this season, he is getting calls WAY less when slashing. maybe in the past, but def. not this season.