No, we'll have Bird rights on him. We can sign him for any amount. Luxury tax may be an issue though.
This is correct. We can sign him for any amount we want. The team that owns any contract that has been in effect for 3 or more years owns the Bird rights of that player.
Cap space is not an issue. Whether or not Les Alexander wants to pay the luxury tax is an issue. Players like Posey (athletic, mediocre shooters and good defenders) are pretty easy to come by in the NBA. Les will probably let Posey sign an offer sheet with another team, and if it's not too much, he'll match it. I wouldn't expect Posey to make more than $3 million if he's here next season
A better question might be is do we need to make some space to resign Posey to stay under the luxury tax. Is this going to be an issue? B edit: Ack, A-Train, we were thinking the same thing...
how much does posey worth? if you were the rox GM, how much would you pay him? i would offer him a 5 years $12.5 mil.
It isn't just about worth. It is about RELATIVE worth. What will he be offered by other teams? What do players on THIS team receive? IMO, he is deserving of AT LEAST what Moochie is getting which is 6 years, $22 million. I mean, 5 years, $12.5 million means he'd be making an average of just over $2.5 million per season. That's just silly. The Rockets offered Marc Jackson 6 years, $25 million, so we know it will be at least in that range. To me, a fair deal would be something in the range of 6 years, $28 to $32 million. That means he starts at around $4 million (the same as the mid-level exception) and goes up to between $6 and $7 million per his last season. In this market, that is probably more than fair. My guess is that he will command at least that much in the free agent market, but the Rockets are in luck because this is a bonanza year for free agents. Posey won't even be in the top 10 in terms of demand which will mean, with his restricted status, the Rockets could get a break.
Let me take a look at these salarys: Steve: 80 + Million Collier: Bag of chips, players choice Posey should come in around 30 mill for 6 years.
Les has taken a lot of heat from the fans and local media for Cato, Taylor, and Moochie's contracts...he won't be offering Posey a lot of money...
Actually, he hasn't this year. Moochie's contract is too big and everyone gets that. But, Cato is "earning" his money. Mo Taylor is starting to round back into form. The only guy I can honestly say Les is probably still a little pissed about is Matt Maloney. Man, it must suck to authorize that paycheck! But, the primary difference between Moochie/Cato and Posey is that Cato and Moochie represented potential, while Posey has already proven his skills. He has shown that he can score, defend and fit in with the team. Cato was signed based on a very good preseason and a lot of potential talent. Moochie was signed because of a good half season and potential talent. Posey is a guy who has already shown he can play at this level. That's why he gets consideration for decent money even with Norris' and Cato's contracts.
Since you mentioned him... do you, Jeff, or anyone else know what MoT weighs in at now? He's really been looking good lately and MUCH thinner, imo. If he keeps improving, we suddenly look much better at the 4 spot.
Jeff, you really think the Rockets were thinking about potential with Moochie? At the time of the signing, I wasn't expecting him to get any better (besides more veteran) than he was in the previous season. How many people thought he would get significantly better?
Maybe I'm just projecting my wishful thinking. What else could it have been? As for Mo, I don't know what his current weight is. He's got to be in the 260 to 270 range, but I honestly have no idea.
the rockets have the bandwagon odds in their favor right now.. I don't think there's another team in the NBA that players want to be on more.. they know we're on the verge of being consistent championship contender.. and everybody wants to play for a winner..
hes got to make at least what moochie does, if not more! im not writing the checks here, but 4 million would seem pretty fair. he should not be rewarded b/c other dudes got phat contracts. sure, he could score 15 a game on a crappy team that could offer more, but if he really wants to win than he will play here for cheaper. in the end it will depend on whether or not posey wants to play on a rising team or get more $ elsewhere.
Mo is the correct weight for a legit 6'11" PF. If his ht/wt were that he'd be worth his contract. Maybe.
For one I didnt know that Mo Tay was that tall. And also dont you guys think they are gonna start making some extra money from Yao Ming stuff. Maybe they will sign Posey no matter what the cost... as long as its close to being realistic. Plus Rice's contract will be gone at the end of next year. But then you have to start worrying about ming and griffins money.
MoT is 6'10, and some times mentioned at 6'9. Griffin is 6'11. Are Mo and Griffin the same height? Of course not. So, since we own his bird rights, can we sign and trade Posey in the summer? Just in case he asks for too much and someone else is willing to pay. Can we? Also, I think Jeff is spot on with the contract. Start off at around 4 and finish at around 7. It's obvious he'll never be a good shooter, he's had adequate time to work on it. For the offense he brings, he can't be offered anything mroe than that. But our fastbreak is much much better with him in the line-up. Personally, I'd love to see him backing up the 2 and 3 rather than starting.
ming signed a 4-year contract, so after his 3th year, sign him to an extension and give him the max like kobe, AI and duncan.
