As a frequent reader and seldom poster, I have often wondered if Houston will ever get over Pippen. Afterall, Houston is the one that gave him the big contract and luckily enough were able to unload it. I realize that most of this disdain must come from the fact that all of Houston had very high expectations when he was signed. The fact is that when he was signed his skills had eroded. Houston did a poor job of evaluating his abilities, I don't know how else to explain the huge contract. Why not just put it behind you, why waste time gathering every Pippen story you can find and posting it? Who cares? Just be glad he's gone and you found someone to take him..that's better than Portland will do. Now about that big extension given to Cato..after one good exhibition game, I'll never understand that.
The Rockets paid him an enormous amount of money to play for them. He dissapointed, to say the least. If we can't get the value from watching him play for us and leading us to success, then we sure as hell can recoup some of it mocking his sorry role-player ass to playoff embarassment after playoff embarassment. I enjoy watching him flop in the playoffs, just like I enjoy watching Malone and Stockton fail. Michael Jordan's greatness grows almost as much from the play of Scottie Pippen sans Mike than from anything Jordan ever did on the court. ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
the only way pippen is a "top 50" player is while holding jordans jock! he is a decent nba player at best. he is also obviously "et" up with this fact, hence his bitterness and overall pettyness as well. ------------------
not all of us post every pippen story and not very many of us care very much and are over it. stop lumping us all together in one category. i personaly am very much over it. i was dissappointed we signed him in the first place, i always thought of him as overrated in chitown. who cares..not me. ------------------ make it stop.
I have been over it quite a wile ago and no longer care to think about it , I look at it as a gamble that did not pay off that's all. Cato is a diferent story!!!!! ------------------ My blood is made of Rocket fuel !
Rim Check - The problem with your explanation is that it overly simplifies the facts. Rightly or wrongly, fans look to sports figures as heroes (or heroines in the case of the Comets) and there are certain expectations which are built into that "hero" status. I can easily accept Pippen not living up to my expectations of him as a player. This presents no problem. What I do have a problem with is Pippen's complete absence of professional and personal skills. A "hero" goes to management and privately questions his role on the team. A "hero" recognizes the possiblity of a "bad fit" from a personnel standpoint. A "hero" tries to create a win-win situation for all concerned. IMHO, Scottie Pippen is an "anti-hero" who publically blamed others for his lack of personal success. Your suggestion of "getting over it" ignores a fundamental concept that sports fans cheer for and want to emulate those athletes and organizations which display positive human qualities. And against those which do not. IMHO, ignoring the negative aspects of sports "heroes" is liking looking for a coin having only one side. By nature, it doesn't exist. ------------------ [This message has been edited by GATER (edited May 06, 2001).]
I don't usually admit stuff like this, but I don't care about Pippen and I never did. I said when they made the deal that I didn't think it was a good idea because of the high salary and his age. I didn't really have high expectations for him, so I didn't really have anything to get over. I kinda agree with you, Rim. I was over him the minute he left. ------------------ So, I took the million dollars and bought a steam shovel...
Jeff- Since your in the mood for sharing may I ask this? Truthfully - did you or did you not get some small satisfaction out of Pippen falling on his face in Portland? Just curious. ------------------ GATER
If Pippen was such a great player---a "leader"---Portland would have won last year's championship. He would have stepped it up in Game 7 against the Lakers. I guess he kept waiting for Michael Jordan to take that last shot. And I didn't appreciate how he talked up Houston---the city---and the Rockets when he arrived, then disparaged them once he got sent to Portland. Even his wife got in a few shots, which is funny; I'm sure she wasn't complaining when spending Scottie's money at the Galleria. Scottie has made a habit of trying to hide among other great players. MJ. Hakeem and Charles. The entire Portland roster. Rockets fans are over him. We love to watch him fail. When he pulls something petty, which is often, we shrug knowingly: WHat do you expect? That's the Scottie we know and love. With the exception of Cato, the Rockets are doing just fine in the post-Scottie era. ------------------
Rim, you're certainly right in that holding to these vindictive grudges is rather petty and bad for one's karma. On the other hand, I feel the reason people have such strong feelings about Pippen is not (only) because he didn't contribute to the team as everyone had hoped, but because he showed such a complete lack of character (as Gater as pointed out). Bottom line: if you have problems with the team, you handle it maturely and responsibly in-house, not trash your teammates to the media. Pippen showed no character in trashing Barkley and being such a whiny b**** in general. I'm glad he's gone, even though his skills at SF are exactly what we could've used now. ------------------
I don't care about his contract or that he didn't succeed here. What I can't stand about the guy is that he didn't try and when things didn't go as HE expected, he blamed his own good friend and teammate, Charles Barkley then proceeded to go out and blast him in the media. I'm happy that he's gone and could care less if I ever hear about him again, but it is funny to hear about him falling on his face again! As for Cato, ughhhh, that's a whole other thread. Rim Check, if you don't mind me asking are you a Rockets fan? ------------------ Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
I don't care about Pippen... but you're still a troll! ------------------ I would believe only in a God who could dance. - Friedrich Nietzsche Boston College - NCAA Hockey National Champions 2001
My response would be, why does anybody care whether Houston gets over it or not? Unless Rocket fans start throwing tomatoes, or batteries or bottles onto the floor, or do something crazy and dangerous, who cares? Petty and vindictive would be doing something like that. Posting links that have facts I don't have a problem with. If he did something stupid, it's reported everywhere else, why not here? I personally could care less about Pippen, but I think the only people who take it personally are Portland fans and Pippen fans. ------------------ See the three, be the three.
I would consider myself a NBA fan, a Rocket fan and a fan of this site. I've always admired Rudy, and many of the players that have been Rockets. I guess my thinking is that Houston has a young exciting team, with a bright future. Pippen is a player who's best years are far behind him. The only one that does not realize that is him. I agree with you that he left as a punk, but I would think that Rocket fans would be happy with the way things worked out. With him and his huge contract on the team, I don't think the Rockets would have been that much better this season and there would be no talk of Chris Webber for next season.
I think people don't like Pippen because of the way he left (he claimed he didn't want to be traded, and then demanded to be traded), then badmouthed the team and took shots at Charles and Dream. It's not the way it turned out that people don't like about Pippen, it's about the way he left. Just because it lucked out for the Rockets that things turned out well doesn't change what he did to this team. ------------------ See the three, be the three.
I like to see Houston fans boo Pippen everytime he touches the ball in the Summit, but that's about the extent of it. I mostly just laugh at him. I guess I don't play the 'jilted lover' like a lot of others on the board. ------------------ "When we were really hard up, Nikki and I would date girls who worked in grocery stores just for the free food. But we always bought our own booze. It was a matter of pride." --Vince Neil
Didn't he apologize? I know that Charles got over it, the fans should too. ------------------ WIN NOW! The Protrolls.com message boards! Hey, I've got posts now! Feel free to join in the trolling fun! Protrolls.com!
Being over it and still getting a kick out of seeing him fail are two distinct emotions. Are we supposed to suck up to Scottie now? We've "gotten over it" so he's good again? No. We still dislike him because he still sucks. ------------------
In all honesty, I did not pay a bit of attention to him in Portland. He can do whatever he wants. It wouldn't make a bit of difference to me unless it directly effects the Rockets. ------------------ So, I took the million dollars and bought a steam shovel...
