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Why Yao can't get the damn ball?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyphercyp, Nov 13, 2003.

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    cyphercyp Member

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    I thought Yao would be the key to win this game,but what happened? He can't even get the ball.
    Is it the change Van brought?
     
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    Agree. I didnt see him get a single pass from the guards in the 4th Qutr. SF3 gave out two 24sec violations when he can easily lob the damn ball to the 7'5 inside. What a SHAME!
     
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    here we go...........
     
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    Because he has been playing like a sissy since the second game.
     
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    Yao is doing his best to be positive, he must get the help not only from the coach but although from his mates
     
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    Yao consisting gets position, but our guards hestitate to make the entry pass and then the defense collapses.

    Our spacing also sucks. We put someone in the corner and there man can easily slide down on Yao.

    We played run-n-gun with the best runners and gunners in the West and lost. Not smart bball.
     
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    Why didn't they take advantage of Yao more?

    I don't get it...if Yao is commanded double team...why didn't the Rockets take more advantage of it? I always see good thing coming out of passing inside and after hearing so much about the team saying that their offense is going to be inside out first...well what's happening to that preaching now?? How many times have you seen them pass to Yao inside? Hardly against the Mavs and I don't think the Mavs double team Yao much at all. I mean if you ain't passing or make a effort of trying to pass inside, how the hell are you going to take advantage of double teaming you know what i mean. This is one reason why we lost today in my opinion. They just simply don't run much through Yao at all. And when Yao established position, they also seem to take too much time to pass to him. Just zip the damm ball in there quick!! Like Bill Walton said, the Rockets doesn't pass the ball hard enough inside to Yao and I totally agreed. They need to do it quick and zip it in because when he established position, it only happend quick and sometimes he got strip cuz they wait too long to pass to him.

    Also Francis is not a good passer or a true point guard type of passer. How many times have you seen him blew it in a 2 vs 1 break? HUH? C'mon now...if ur a true PG, that's money right there. Instead of making simple pass to his teammate for an easy layup, he chose to challenge and thought he can blew by Nowiski for the lay-in..but no, he got rejected.

    The Rockets did play good enough defense but just not passing inside enough to Yao to take advantage of double teaming. If Yao didn't establish position when they're trying to throw him the ball, they swing the ball to the other side and never go back to him again. What I don't understand is...can't they swing to the other side and swing it back again when Yao establish position....it's not that hard. Lakers teammates always do that..if they really want to give it to Shaq and Shaq hasn't establish the position, they simply swing the ball to the other side and swing back quickly again and get the ball to him. What i see tonight is the Rockets aren't even make an effort to go inside like I seen one of their games in pre-seaon whre they really make an effort to throw inside to Yao. It's disappointing cuz Dallas didn't even front him or even double team him when he got the ball until when he got a couple buckets.

    I just got to let this out cuz I am not seeing what I expect to see, mainly go inside to Yao more often. And of course Yao sometimes chose not to post up so that didn't help. I guess he's tired of the fact that nobody pass him the ball when he asks for it while posting up. The Rockets need to learn to zip it into Yao quickly and not waste anytime.
     
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    jvg, when you instruct your players to feed the ball into the post "quickly, please tell them that this does NOT mean a bullet pass. thanks. ;)

    rocketrichnyc did say that jvg had this site in his favorites... right?
     
  10. Apollo Creed

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    I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even watch the game. Yao had the touches.

    Yao was single covered for pretty much all of the game, and had really good looks, just couldn't capitalize. He sucked. Steve sucked. Cat sucked.

    The only bright spot was Jim Jackson, the rest of the team did their part to contribute to the overall sucking.
     
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    I tried to read your post, but all I could think about was Yao being single man covered from behind by Shawn Bradley, and Mobley giving a perfect lob pass over his defender right to where Yao's hands should be. Yao kind of squated....I guess he thought by planting his feet he'd keep Bradley from bumping him....and Bradley just sort of reached over Yao's shoulder and swatted the ball away.

    Quick turnover.

    Yao is awesome. I've seen it, so I know. Perhaps he's hit some sort of wall....I don't know....

    but compared to what I've seen from him.....plain and simple.......he's sucking.

    Blame the guards all you want......you'll find welcome refuge on this BBS......but I think Yao shares a good part of the blame.

    He's sucking.
     
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    Boy I miss having an edit.....but I was replying to reptilexcq
     
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    I did watch the game and never missed a commercial either. The Rockets don't go to Yao enough, that's what i am saying. I didn't say they didn't pass to Yao, it's JUST NOT ENOUGH MAN!!!! They need to establish a foundation in their offense like the Lakers establish a foundation with Shaq. WHen the game is on the line, your only thought is go inside to your big man clear and simple and nothing else and your opponents even know it too, but the fact is the Rockets (I didn't think they ignore Ming), I just think they didn't make an effort to get him the ball.

    If they continue feeding the ball to Yao, they would have a better chance of winning in every game, you can mark my words down!!!
     
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    Yao is TERRIBLE at catching the ball, he has decent hands, but his reaction time between recognizing where the ball is going to go and moving his seven feet six inches and three hundred pounds to that spot on the floor to get it is MIND NUMBINGLY slow. That's why he's a "phone booth" rebounder.

    I don't know how he is going to be able to overcome that one.
     
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    maybe vg's instructed them to make judgment calls on whether yao has established position close enough to the basket to get the ball... even if he's wide open. he has been posting up farther outside lately and vg's been making a huge deal about his operating in the paint. i dunno.
     
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    Straight up! Not enough and too much dribling on the floor!
     
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    im suprised no one said that yet. So many times the ball slips through his hand, or the rebound falls between his hand and end up somehow on the other teams hand. Yao does have extremely slow reaction time. he also does not hustle at all. ZERO times ive seen him go after a loose ball, even when he is the closest person to it.
     
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    Why can't Francis or Mobley pass the ball to Yao when Yao is in position? SF wants to be traded by playing poorly now.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Yeah, but the funny thing is he's actually pretty quick when he gets going, he just can't get his body to react in time.

    Example: his baseline spin move is pretty damned fast for a big guy, but you can tell when he does it, he has to gather himself first and then move into it. It's not a "reaction" move; it's a planned move.

    With jumping to catch a lob or a rebound, he doesn't have time to do this, he just has to react. He just doesn't react quickly enough. You can see him recognize what to do, he just can't get moving in time to do it.:(
     
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    Phone booth rebounder??? Is that technical term Sam?? :p
     

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