Why trade for him if you're not going to play him?!

I saw Langhi leave the court and go to the locker room early in the first half.

 

I would think the Rocks traded for Langhi for the future, not for now. Whatever success he has this season, is simply a bonus. I'm sure as the season progresses, he will get more chances to prove himself and receive more minutes. As for the Najera-for-Langhi trade itself, Najera wouldn't exactly be on the court a heck of a lot. Especially after the Taylor signing, we have a lot more depth at the PF position than at SF. Who knows, if the Rocks stuck with Najera and he showed some promise in the off-season, we may not have even seen Mo in a Rockets uni this season.

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"The Player's Coach" and his coaching staff benefit from the residual glory of the two titles. But at some point, they also have to be held accountable for the poor decisions they've made.

So when most knowledgeable people in the NBA are saying that the Rockets are rebuilding faster then any other team has done, that is not good enough for you? You want all decisions to be the right one and no mistakes are allowed. That remark sounds like something a Laker fan would say, they are the only ones I see that think things are perfect.

Why trade for Langhi if you're not going to give him court time? Especially when Bullard can't seem to pass the ball to guys on his OWN team.

Is there any way that it might be that he is taking a little longer to get the system, even if he has the talent, and Rudy might want him to get more grasp and practice time before putting him in the game situation? I think I will trust Rudy as to when he is ready to play.

Before Cassell was traded, Tomjanovich had problems with his on-court personality -- which probably hastened his departure.

Your memory is probably better then mine, but I seem to remember it was the last year of Sams contract and he had already remarked he was going to get the max as he had won two championships.


Unless they can get Collier into a strength and conditioning program, the trade with Milwaukee was a bad one.

I think we got Collier for free, didn't we? We just exchanged our first round this year for their first round next year.

The term "player's coach" seems to imply someone not as adept with on-court strategy. If that is the case, hire some competent assistant coaches (and scouts).

Yes I can see it now, Les telling Rudy to fire the people that have been with him and won the championships. He needs people he can work with better. Or was you implying that Rudy needs to go also?


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While Langhi was technically acquired by trade, basically he's a draft pick. A second-round draft pick. One who had a great summer league and a good training camp, but has played relatively poorly in his limited playing time in the preseason. Now granted this is preseason, and I would like to see Rudy dole out the minutes a little more evenly. But it seems clear that Rudy wants his rookies to earn PT - not have it given to them. I'm sure there will occurr a moment in the season where Langhi is given a chance to shine - a la Cassell, Othella, and Kenny Thomas last year. His opportunity to prove himself will come then; and I think he will prove himself capable.

Bull was one of the best 3 point shooters in the league last season. And he's been a rocket almost 10 seasons - ergo he deserves to get minutes. I have no idea where you're going with the Cassell reference.

I am unclear - are you unhappy with Rudy's personell decisions or his on-court strategy? Have you watched any of the games this preseason?

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Boseman and Collier are new to the system, too. Why the in-consistency?

Well, Boseman will prolly not make the roster, so Rudy either wants to showcase him, or let him play a lot so that he can see whether Boseman is worthy of makin the roster.

As far as Colier, maybe Rudy is planning more for Collier than Langhi for this year. With everyone gettin injured, and the future injuries of Hakeem, we're gonna need Collier to play some center.

Also as HeyPartner said, maybe Langhi was sick or something.

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hey guys just remember how these draft day trades work. when our pick came around there was noone the rocks wanted, so we pulled the trigger on a pre planned reade with dallas. we didnt trade players, we traded draft choices. the Mavs told houston who to pick, and the rocks told dallas. the trade was immefdiate, and we will get another draft pick at a later time. the same kind of trade was aranged so we could draft danghi. we didnt beleive he would still be around when it got to our 2nd pick. so we made the trade for prezbyllias pick not actually the player. its alot more complicated than a player for player trade.

also i would like to ask what the hell is wrong with you guys. not every draft is a success. deal with it. also i dont beleive that 6 pre-season games are a good litmus test for a players career in the nba. most NBA draftees end up being waived, and put in the cba/aba/euroleagues. all of you people bashing collier were going nuts when he had that dunk the other week, so i ask you this, what is it going to be next week, the I love Boseman bandwaggon. we have a good exciting young team this year. enjoy it!!

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May I refer everyone to Heypartner's response that Langhi left the bench early in the game?

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Has anyone else noticed Najera hasn't done jack since that Rocket game? He was excited because it was his first NBA game and against the team that traded him. He is proving to be an inconsistent player, just like Langhi. Its beecause they are rookies.


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Dan Langhi is a mid second round draft pick. With only a FEW exceptions, most players drafted down this far are not expected to make heavy contributions in their rookie seasons. Langhi will have ample time to hone his skills and barring a trade or Lottery luck (Morris, Battier, etc), Langhi will get a chance to display his skills and learn the NBA game. From college ball to the NBA is a big jump.

Case in point is Houston's own Rashard Lewis who was drafted 32nd and averaged 7.3 mpg and 2.4 ppg in his rookie year. But we all (me included) drool at his potential.

Not a good analogy to compare Langhi and a HSchooler? OK, try these on for size:

1) Gary Payton got minutes, but never averaged double figures ppg until his THIRD NBA season.

2) Darrell Armstrong (after playing overseas) averaged about 3.2 ppg and 3 mpg in his first TWO NBA seasons.

3) Eric Snow (another 2nd rounder noted in college for dishing out the assist) in his rookie year got 9 mpg, 1.7 apg, & 2.7 ppg.

4) Elden Campbell (at the time, most prolific scorer in Clemson history) 7.3 mpg & 2.8 ppg

5) Ty Corbin (Spurs 2nd rounder) never got completely on track until his FIFTH season.

6) Ervin Johnson (you know - the guy Pryzbilla plays second string behind) was the 23rd pick for the Sonics and they went 63-19 in his rookie season. He got 6.2 mpg & 2.6 ppg & .49 bpg. He became Seattle's starting center midway thru his 2nd season.

7) Jerome Williams was the 26th pick in '96 (anybody here wish he were a Rocket?) - 5.4 mpg, 1.5 rbg, 1.5 ppg.

Sorry for the long-winded stats. The point, is this - let's all give Dan Langhi more than the RMR & a handful of preseason games to learn his Rockets teammates and the teams' style, but most importantly let's give him time to develop an NBA body and NBA SKILLS!

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EJ Tucker:

Collier wasn't really a freebee in the Milwaukee trade cuz we will not get a lottery pick in return...

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Isn't this the same guy that advocated trading for Eric Montross?

Consider the source.

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Look, the reason the Rocks got Collier was primarily for three reasons:

1. They like his shooting touch. The kid hasn't shown it yet, but he can hit the open shot and that is a key for a big guy like him who is like a wall when setting a pick.

2. All the guys they wanted were gone. After the small forwards the Rockets coveted were off the board, they had no interest in a guy that could add cap dollars and no other real payoff. Getting Collier saved them about $1 million in cap space.

3. Extra picks. By trading away Przybilla, they got another 1st round pick to play with from Milwaukee. For the Rockets, the pick was far more valuable than what was left on the board.

Langhi is a wild card. No one expects second round picks to make rosters let alone become stud players. Of course, the Rockets drafted Mobley as well. He didn't turn out to be a bust.

The Rocks felt like they needed offensive weapons in the frontcourt. They got them.

Who knows whether or not they will pan out. Many like them never do and others are great. The whole thing is a crap shoot. I'd rather have the Rockets draft record than some other teams out there, however.

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University Blue- I don't get it; what's your point? You seem critical of Rudy, you clearly don't like the 'in Rudy we trust' 'blind faith' thing.

Dude, if all you have to criticize is not giving a mid second-rounder enough preseason play... you are really reaching.

The term "player's coach" seems to imply someone not as adept with on-court strategy. If that is the case, hire some competent assistant coaches (and scouts).

Huh? Where did that come from? Forget "seems to imply", let's just watch the games. How is his on court-strategy? Any opinions? Does the strategy suck? Are we losing games because his strategy sucks? Let us know.

"In Rudy We Trust" -- which I call blind faith, may be fine for some, but at what point do you start to question whether he is making the right decision(s)?

I would question him if we were losing games. I would question him if our record didn't improve from last year. I would question him if the players couldn't execute a winning game plan. I would question him if he had Collier finishing the fourth quarter of a close game vs. the Spurs- during the regular season.

Apparently, all you need to question him is lacking play time for a mid 2nd rounder. In Rudy you distrust.

 

Nolen: I believe that University Blue was referring to other arguments made outside of this thread. I agree that there haven't been any such regressive arguments made in this thread... but they are *fricking* annoying on occasion. It's not very fair to have a well-articulated, logically cohesive argument countered by "well, I trust Rudy."

I do wish we could see a bit more of Langhi, but I think Rudy has a good reason for not playing him. Namely, he's not ready yet. Langhi might even have the skills to play at this point, but he needs to put on a bit of muscle. The man is a stick.

If this is the case, nobody is to blame for Langhi's limited playing time. The fact that Boseman is playing just means that his roster spot is up in the air.

Collier... hasn't shown anything yet. We're all hoping he'll show a jump shot, and serve as a situational player (drawing Shaq out). He hasn't yet... I'm still upset that's all we got out of the #9 pick... but heck, maybe we'll nab something with that extra pick next year.



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"In Rudy we Trust"? HELL YEAH!
a) they are just rookies
b) Rudy's had great luck w/ 2nd round picks

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