Why They Hate Us The Muslim world has a truly glorious past-and a diminished and humbling present. By Hillel Fradkin December 18, 2001 WASHINGTON -- Osama bin Laden and other radical Muslims look at the present condition of the world not just in contemporary terms, but in light of the whole 1,400-year sweep of Islamic history. They cite medieval authorities as frequently as living experts; ancient battles as readily as recent ones. To understand today's Islamic radicals, it is necessary to appreciate how unappetizing civilization's current trends look to them. Keep in mind that for at least 1,000 years after Islam's founding in 622, Islamic states and their rulers were the most powerful entities in the world, far more impressive than any of their European and Christian rivals. At the turn of the previous millennium, the great cities of culture, learning, and science were Cordoba, Baghdad, and other urbane Arab metropolises. That is emphatically no longer the case. To the contrary, today's Muslim nations are weak and, by and large, failed states. Whatever importance they possess derives almost entirely from where they are located-atop the largest proven reserves of oil in the world. For a long time, the Islamic empire stretched from the Pyrenees to Indonesia, including most everything in between. As recently as the sixteenth century, the most powerful state in the world, including Europe, was Muslim: the Ottoman Empire. As recently as the seventeenth century, the Ottomans came remarkably close to capturing Vienna. Had they done so, all of Europe could have come under Muslim rule. But things turned out differently. For the past two or three centuries, the Muslim world has been in retreat-politically, militarily, and economically. To the west, Muslim states were forced to give up rule in Europe; in the east, they were pushed out of India. For a period, Muslims even had to submit to the rule of non-Muslims in North Africa, the Middle East, and South and Southeast Asia. Today, all Muslim nations are self-governing and with few exceptions are officially Muslim states. Geographically speaking, the Muslim world is not grossly smaller than it was at its height. But politically, Muslim countries are shadows of their former selves. This situation is not only a function of the rapid progress of their competitors and adversaries. The Islamic world itself has stopped improving; Muslim leaders have not appropriated those aspects of modernity that made their rivals strong. Worse still, Muslims have intermittently tried to adopt defective forms of modernization-especially various types of socialism. What they have not lastingly tried is democratic capitalism. Almost all Muslim countries are still ruled by some form of autocracy-some softer, some harsher- and most of their autocrats are corrupt. The Muslim world has a truly glorious past-not only politically and militarily but also intellectually and spiritually-and a diminished and humbling present. The natural consequence is disappointment, shame, even despair. The contrast with life in today's powerful advanced democracies like the United States is stark and often embittering. Of course, there are many peoples and countries that have lost the preeminence they once enjoyed. The city of Rome, after all, once ruled the world. In modern times, England and France rose to great power, then declined. The French, in particular, still find it hard to bear their reduced position, but these peoples have "moved on." Why then does the diminished political station of Islamic countries so often yield fanaticism, rage, and terrorism? The clearest explanation is that the Muslim faith assigns religious value to political success. The Koran presents Islam as the worthy successor, indeed the superior, of its monotheistic predecessors, Judaism and Christianity. Islam, unlike Christianity, has a political mission at its very heart. In contrast to Judaism (with which it shares a political element) Islam has a universalizing and missionary impulse. It looks forward eventually to a world united under Islam. The original political and military successes of Islam served to confirm and reinforce the importance of political mission within its religious teachings. This has made Islam's more recent weakness especially troubling and freighted with greater significance than the ordinary rise and fall of state fortunes. Today's fanatics and terrorists have put an extreme interpretation on these circumstances. It is not merely history that has gone awry, they say, but the very constitution of the world. Demonic forces must be loose. How else is one to understand the current weakness of Mohammed's homelands? Satan himself must be at work-in the form of America, the Great Satan. America has achieved what has heretofore been unprecedented-"the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places," Arabia, the very birthplace of Islam. To be sure, only a minority of Muslims share this interpretation, and a still smaller number are prepared to act on it with terror and violence. Still, the view is sufficiently popular to be convenient for Muslim tyrants-like Saddam Hussein, who has his own, hardly pious, reasons for wanting the United States out of the Arabian Peninsula. Regrettably, demonizing views of the United States have also been given a platform in the press of several "moderate" Muslim countries, fanning popular resentment and hatred toward everything American. Faced with indigenous resistance to their own regimes, the rulers of nations like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan have found it useful to let the United States be the bogeyman, distracting their populations from problems at home. This may backfire spectacularly. It is certain to make our war against terrorism more difficult. http://www.nyu.edu/globalbeat/syndicate/fradkin121801.html Thank God they never took Vienna.
Nice read. It seems to me that most Muslims countries will never achive political cloute they are seeking unless some fundamental changes in their culture are made. Political achievements start with economic prosperity. Economic presperity comes from freedom. Freedom to persue ones dreams allow hope for all people, man and women. If half of your labor force is kept at home or not given a chance to thrive, how far can the entire culture go? If you refuse to allow the newest and latest technology to be widely available, how can you stay ahead. Diversification of cultures and ideas allows for many different views and acceptance. Why would outside countries and companies want to invest in a country that couldn't guarantee the free flow of ideas and products, within limmit, to its employees and customers. I don't think its a coincidence that the coutries in the world with the most power are also democracies. Or maybe its just plain greed.
Greed is infectious. I wish the Islamic world would get infected. Freedom, Secularism, Democracy... These are the cornerstones of any successful modern society, much less a modern economy. If they refuse to enter the 21st century with the rest of the world... Then so be it. Their loss.
It was my impression that the early Islamic nations were more advanced than their Christian counterparts in many areas including academic scholarship and religious tolerance. Have we now switched places?
Until the decline of the Ottomans, they were more advanced in almost every way. Yes, we have pretty much "switched places".
This brings up a question that I've been thinking about through all these happenings. All the great empires - Egyptian, Roman, Ottoman, etc. were among the most powerful at some point. Some, relatively speaking, were more powerful than the US is today. Yet they all fell or disintegrated. I'm sure the Ottomans were sitting around thinking they were bad-ass, the Egyptians had their Hitites, etc., then all of a sudden... *poof*... no more. After all, nothing lasts forever. My questions : 1) Could this happen to the US? 2) How close do you think we are? 3) What do you see causing the US to similarly disappear into history?
1) Could this happen to the US? anything is possible. 2) How close do you think we are? I don't think we're very close, unless a MAJOR catastrophe or disease appears overnight. 3) What do you see causing the US to similarly disappear into history? I don't know what it's going to take to make us disappear, but whatever it is it's going to have to be cataclysmic, something big. I mean a major movement or event. Some sort of breakdown of society, like disease or extreme weather. What pretty much ended the Roman empire? Christianity? some sort of major breakdown of beliefs. I don't think we are all going to succumb to Islam anytime soon. good questions, DoD rH --
DoD: Good questions. Yes, but I think we're more insulated against it than previous empires were. The major reason for this is that we are not an imperialist entity by nature, whereas previous empires were universally expansionist in nature. We're far less likely to overstretch ourselves, because world domination is not our goal. Unlike previous empires, we are satisfied with the status quo when it comes to geographic, economic, political, military, etc. power. Also, because our relative dominance is not as great as many earlier empires within the scope of the global economy and political landscape, we are less likely to have a drastic fall as they did. We could very well see a gradually diminished dominance in the future, but not a huge collapse as other empires have. Not as close as some might think. People have been predicting the demise and decline of US power for over 30 years, and look where we are... It would take a major event to trigger a collapse or sharp decline, such as a nuclear war. A nuclear war with China is the only event I can think of for the forseeable future that would cause a drastic decline of American power. A severe global depression would hurt us, but it would hurt everyone else too, and our relative position wouldn't really change. But a future (maybe 20 years from now or further out) nuclear war with China is about all I can think of, except possibly for a cataclysmic natural disaster (comet/asteroid, flood, etc), and you can neither predict nor control those. Anything else we could recover from fully given time.