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Why the Texans still made a huge mistake taking Mario

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by jmftexas, Dec 19, 2007.

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  1. jmftexas

    jmftexas Member

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    1. Quarterbacks are much more valuable than defensive ends. Quarterback is the only position where a star can carry an average team to the super bowl.

    2. Mario Williams is a piece of the puzzle. Vince Young is the whole puzzle.

    3. Vince has carried a team with no wide receiver threats, a subpar o-line, no breakway rb threat, and an inconsistent defense to a 8-6 record. Imagine what he can do with upgrades at every position.

    4. Mario Williams made 2.5 sacks against the Titans and the Texans still allowed 28 points and lost. That would average out to a 40 sack season going 0-16 and allowing 28 ppg? Would anyone be happy with that?

    5. No one cares about the Texans besides die hard fans in the city of Houston. Austin and San Antonio don't even carry their games which is unprecedented. With Vince Young the Texans are as popular as the Cowboys in the state of Texas.

    6. Despite severe denial by Texans, Aggies, or whomever, Vince Young is a special player. He may struggle at times early in his career. As did Aikman, Steven Young, Elway, about all the great ones, but you can see what he's capable of producing in his big games. If he does that consistently you are talking super bowls. His stats may never look all-pro with Jeff Fisher as his coach, but at every level he's been among the leaders in the one that counts, W's. Also, he's been hampered with the hamstring this season and not close to 100% speed.

    7. I have nothing agianst Mario, I hope he succeeds, as I have noted earlier I think he's irrelevent in this argument. That being said, I don't think you can rule out the possibility that this season could be a fluke. He has been the beneficiary of some botched plays and on most sacks seems to be the second man to the qb. Maybe he continues to progress and is among the best de's in the game though, time will tell. Again, I think it's an irrelevent point. The Colts are without Freeney this season and still only have 2 losses. Without Peyton they are probably starring at 6 loses.
     
    #1 jmftexas, Dec 19, 2007
  2. mrdave543

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    I cant wait to see the responses to this thread....

    8. Titans were one game out of the playoffs last year, and one game behind this year with 2 games left. VINCE JUST WINS
     
    #2 mrdave543, Dec 19, 2007
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    Dumbest thread ever.

    Seriously, completely idiotic thoughts.
     
    #3 rezdawg, Dec 19, 2007
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    This should be a lesson to all members:

    NEVER post after smoking crack.
     
    #4 Drewdog, Dec 19, 2007
  5. leroy

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    The only thing I'm responding to is this...they show every Texans game in San Antonio.
     
    #5 leroy, Dec 19, 2007
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    Wait......did you just give an argument where you compared Mario with Freeney and Vince with Peyton?

    No chance at all you attend(ed) UT, right?

    Evan
     
    #6 emjohn, Dec 19, 2007
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    God, I am so sick of this argument. The Tennessee DEFENSE has carried the team this year, not Vince. (And this is coming from a Texas Ex.)
     
    #7 VesceySux, Dec 19, 2007
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    You also forgot to mention that Mario speeds through puddles to splash water on people who happen to be walking by on the sidewalk...and Vince will frequently listen to a police scanner and randomly show up at homes where cats are stuck in trees (sorta like Shaq).


    thread failure
     
    #8 boomboom, Dec 19, 2007
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  10. jmftexas

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    The Colt reference was to illustrate the importance of de as compared to qb's. Obviously Mario Williams is no Dwight Freeney.
     
    #10 jmftexas, Dec 19, 2007
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    KY can't carry anything. The Titans defense MIGHT get them into the playoffs.

    A puzzle of the worst giant turd starting quarterback in the NFL.

    KY carried the Titans this year as much as he did with the win against the Texans when HE DIDNT EVEN PLAY. That would be none.


    The Titans won the game that Vince didn't play. They would be undefeated if he sat them all out.

    Al of those people suck like you do. Who cares?

    Special as in r****ded.

    The Texans would have no wins with KY as their quarterback.
     
    #11 MR. MEOWGI, Dec 19, 2007
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Shouldve taken the best QB in the draft.

    Jay Cutler.
     
    #12 Mr. Clutch, Dec 19, 2007
  13. Saint Louis

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    So to sum up the trolling UT poster.

    Vince Young = Jesus
    Mario Williams = Lucifer
    Reggie Bush = Kevin Faulk
     
    #13 Saint Louis, Dec 19, 2007
  14. TheyCallmeExMan

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    when vy learns to throw ill take u more seriously.
     
    #14 TheyCallmeExMan, Dec 19, 2007
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    OMG STFU. F VY!
     
    #15 Astro101, Dec 19, 2007
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    But Vince is obviously Peyton's equal.
     
    #16 RocketFan007, Dec 19, 2007
  17. jmftexas

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    Yes, you a are right. Cutler led the Broncos to what 13 points against one of the worst secondaries in the nfl. Vince led Titans with less offensive threats to 28 points against them. You are right Cutler looks much better???????? :confused: :confused:
     
    #17 jmftexas, Dec 19, 2007
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    The only real argument is that:

    with drafting VY is we would not have had to give up 2 #2 draft picks. And the QB with got with those picks is obviously injury prone.

    I think that we should have just rolled with Sage but thats not what HAPPENED so the subsequent moves to fill the position that was not filled by the Mario pick needs to be taken into account.

    Therefore Mario (who plays a position where we had an excess of players) has to be BETTER than VY and have more of an impact to say it was a good pick.
     
    #18 Bandwagoner, Dec 19, 2007
  19. leroy

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    Guess I have to go back on what I said about only 1 response...

    2006 & 2007 combined sacks:

    Dwight Freeney - 9

    Mario Williams - 17.5

    I know...sacks aren't the only way to judge. I just thought I'd throw that out there.

    The Colts went 13-3 in Peyton's second year and to the playoffs. Where are the titans this year? Where is VY's improvement?
     
    #19 leroy, Dec 19, 2007
  20. jmftexas

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    I wouldn't put Peyton on Vince's level due to lack of mobility.

    Peyton was a .500 qb after 2 seasons, Vince is 15-12 as a starter so far. I would say it's easy to see who projects better after two seasons.
     
    #20 jmftexas, Dec 19, 2007
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