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why support this bill

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ryan_98, Mar 21, 2010.

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why do you support passing this bill

  1. it will bring change to our healthcare system

    41 vote(s)
    91.1%
  2. it is a victory over the republicans

    2 vote(s)
    4.4%
  3. other

    2 vote(s)
    4.4%
  1. ryan_98

    ryan_98 Contributing Member
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    so why are you supporting this bill?
     
  2. mc mark

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    no all the above?

    :grin:
     
  3. Pimphand24

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    I suggest you learn how to make a better poll.

    The options need a bit of work.
     
  4. ryan_98

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    other than an "all of the above" option, what would you have liked to have seen added?
     
  5. Pimphand24

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    I feel that it is too simplistic and also does not cover all the options, and also doesn't allow opposition voters. When there is a poll everyone wants to participate.

    Change over healthcare? Nobody simply supports change, so lets break it down to things I support within the bill.

    Why do you support the healthcare bill?
    Pick the option that most represents you.

    -Provides insurance to millions of uninsured Americans.
    -Creates competition in the market so private insurance costs less.
    - Victory over the Republicans / I love Obama.
    - All of the above.
    -Both A&B but not so much C.
    -Other. Please Explain.
    - I do not support this bill.
    - I'm on the fence / I'm confused.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    These answers suck.
     
  7. Rocketball

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    This poll is about as bad as the actual health care bill - maybe a little bit better.
     
  8. ryan_98

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    i knowingly omitted the choices for support. i think we are all too familiar with who opposes this.

    also, i must admit that i am somewhat surprised by how the poll has shaped up in this short time. based on much of the smugness from many in the congress, i figured we would have two or three voted for choice #2.

    furthermore, i think, the fewer choices in a poll will encourage input in the thread.
     
  9. Ottomaton

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    The problem with this poll is that I understood from the first reading that you had "smugly" crafted it to show the point that people were supporting it just because they didn't like the Republicans. The other options were little more than an afterthought.

    If you were trying to create an honest, unbiased poll, you failed miserably. If you wanted to let us all know that you think people voted for it to spite the Republicans, you succeeded at least with respect to me.
     
  10. Ubiquitin

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    As a doctor in training, it's about the health care stupid.
     
  11. thadeus

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    Who gives a **** about the Republicans?

    Now I don't have to worry as much about dying from hyperglycemia (because the cost of my insulin has literally doubled in the past 5 years) if I'm out of a job.
     
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    Perhaps that's just because you really don't have even a basic understanding of the issue or the debate. The GOP was the group playing politics here - their only goal was a Dem loss. The Dems were passing a policy that they've believed in and pushed for decades.
     
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    Because I have a "pre-existing condition".
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    How does the cost of insulin double? Secret formula?
     
  15. ryan_98

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    while not my primary thought, it certainly is one of them, thus my surprise from the responses.
     
  16. Shooter3

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    I don't know anything about that, but the medication that I have to take for my "pre-existing condition" would cost me 30+ grand a year without insurance.
     
  17. thadeus

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    The company that makes them, of course, gave no justification or reason for doubling the price, but the uninsured cost of my insulin has gone from $60 to $130 per vial (I use two different types) in the past 5 years.

    And it's exactly the same insulin it was 5 years ago.

    God bless the free market!
     
  18. SamFisher

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    I guess there's no need for a "why do you oppose" push poll since we already know the answer, pure partisanship.

    That's why the Republicans filibustered what amounted to their 1994 plan/Romneycare etc.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Man this needed to be done 4 years ago. It's unbelievable how many hard working people are too scared to go to a hospital because of MONEY.

    Health care is a right. Convince me if you believe otherwise.
     
  20. panamamyers

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    That's the problem as it stands now.
    Too many people that don't work and don't have any money think that everything should be a right.
    An college education is a right.
    A job is a right.
    Healthcare is a right.
    A Lincoln Navigator is a right.
    A couple of 12" subwoofers in the trunk is a right.
    A nice Alpine Crossover is a right.
    A couple of tickets to the Rockets game is a right.
    Riding in a plane instead of a bus is a right.


    Nothing is a right.
    Period.
    You have to make money and pay for whatever it is that you want in life.

    It really upset me having to listen to the lady talk on CNN about how hard her mom worked and how she died because of lack of medical care.

    Medical care isn't going to save everyone. My dad died of a heart attack in the middle of his bedroom at age 55. What if we could have afforded to have a doctor stay permanently in our guest bedroom and watch over all of us all day. Maybe it should be a right to have a doctor at each one of our houses?
    Of course not. But, hey, Donald trump can afford that, so if he gets that right, I should get it too?
    Of course not.
    I get what I can pay for, Trump gets the level of coverage he can pay for, and everyone else gets the level of coverage they can pay for.


    The reason the United States is lagging so far behind the rest of the world right now is because we have to spend too many resources giving things to people that do nothing to earn it.
     

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